Lost Girl: Season 3, Episode 13, Those Who Wander

SPOILER ALERT I generally try to time my reviews to coincide with the American airing, but as ShowCase already aired and SyFy is not airing until next week, I’m not going to wait. Read at your own risk, but I will not be holding back. This is your last and only warning.

I mean it. 


We open a few seconds after we left off. Bo is punching the chi out of the guard in an attempt to save Tamsin. When that fails, she tries a starry-eyed monologue for help, and then somehow we’re back at the clubhouse with an unconscious Tamsin on the couch and two Kitsune sorority sisters making out in the background.

I know. Not what I was expecting, either.

In the next couple disorienting minutes, Bo learns Tamsin is associated with a bad character, “like, Voldemort bad,” and we all learn Tamsin lives long and can self-heal to some extent, and at one point lived with the sorority girls. This possibly solves the mystery of Why Is Tamsin Living Out Of Her Truck.

While waiting for Tamsin to come to, Bo calls Kenzi. The framing on Kenzi is so extreme, I knew the wide shot would be ridiculous, and it didn’t disappoint. A tattooed beefstick is holding Kenzi, better for The Morrigan to taunt and threaten, my dear. Despite Kenzi flattering The Morrigan’s footwear, she’s saved from a severe tazing only by the gem Hale slipped her (not an innuendo, or is it?). The Morrigan, frustrated and not exactly long on patience, tells beefstick to take Kenzi out and kill her. Very Snow White’s Evil Stepmother.

Screen Shot 2013-04-15 at 4.33.29 PMTamsin wakes up and is more flustered by thinking Bo may know something about her past than by the fact her hair is dying and she’s been listick’d. She’s even less thrilled to hear Bo’s plan consists of marching back to Isaac’s compound and getting arrested at gunpoint. Tamsin insists they make a stop to see the much-better-dressed-than-last-time Mossimo, who serves as Tamsin’s dealer of ‘juice’ and also the Rune glass. When they do meet the guards again, it takes them about ten seconds to get hauled in. “All we had to do is act like girls,” Tamsin pouts on her way in to the . . . I can’t help but call it a castle.

Meanwhile, things have happened quickly in the castle. Dyson and Lauren have gleaned from (a somewhat loopier-than-usual) Aife that Isaac is after powerful Fae. Last week, reader Rachel mentioned similarities between Gabriel (a Biblical angel reference) and Mengele, the Nazi Avenging Angel, and this episode makes it immediately clear Isaac is looking for the strongest of the master race to imbue himself with their strength and powers. Several Fae appear in background cages, and we assume they’re exemplary species.

The only non-powerful Fae in prison is a cabbit, a mythological hybrid between a rabbit and a cat. The wife of the now-deceased bartender, she’s slinky like a cat has 38 children like a rabbit. You don’t just introduce a character like this without her having some ramifications later, but at first she played like a humorous relief and a way for Lauren to flex her muscles a little and order Isaac around. 

This is wrong on all the levels. After Isaac gives Lauren what she wants – 10 minutes and some medical supplies to do her doctor thing – he takes her to his, um, throne room and waves his, ah, bone scepter at her while trying to seduce her. Move along, nothing symbolic here.

Man, does this guy not know how to woo a woman. Or how to tell which way she swings.

The most interesting part of Isaac’s story is that he, like Aife before him, was mostly a victim of circumstance. Both Isaac and Aife were neutral if misguided characters; it was insane asylums, imprisonment, and torture that made them insane and sociopathic. Miscarriage of justice and mistreatment led to their murderous rampages, not the other way around.

As his final act, Gabriel wants to ascend, like Lucifer wanted to, once upon a time. Lauren makes a decent, last-ditch threat the Light Fae will find him and take more than his head, but he’s put a lot of time, thought, and money into turning into a “cross-breed,” and he’s not about to stop now. He later uses the word ‘reborn,’ which also carries a lot of biblical implications. He’s obviously thinking on a grand scale.

Repeat after me: blocking is important and meaningful!

Now the plotlines begin to converge. Bo is brought before Isaac, and Lauren cuts off their reunion with a curt “You came for Dyson.” Ignoring the overtly suggestive implications in that sentence, Lauren is pulling out all the stops to convince Isaac she has rejected Bo and is completely sold out for Isaac’s plan – not because Lauren believes in what Isaac wants, but because she sees this as a way out from under the Fae entirely. She even uses ‘loved,’ past tense.

It’s telling when Lauren verbally eviscerates Bo, she places herself between Bo and Isaac, showing only Bo her face while turning her back on Isaac. Everything Lauren says to Bo about her own situation is still true, from her pain at being abused for years at the hands of the Fae to wanting to do something meaningful. Isaac hears it as an endorsement of his experiment, but Lauren means quite a different thing entirely.

I don't know what is in the background, but it's suitably science-y and creepy.While Bo is taken back to her cell, Isaac waves a horsehair doodad, then goes to the operating room where Dyson is bolted down. He proceeds to fulfill homoerotic subtext which makes the Skyfall scene pale in comparison. He tickles Dyson’s feet and calls him “the most magnificent creature I have ever encountered” before leaning over and saying “I can’t wait to be the recipient of all that you have.”

I mean, really.

This subtext is topped only by the next scene’s subtext, where Tamsin gets super-charged while Bo gets an extra jolt. There’s so much sexual tension resolved you have to wonder if they planned the story around the imagery, rather than the other way around.

Let me back up a moment. When I start reviewing Lost Girl from the beginning (next week! mark your calendars), I plan to talk about how the scenes depicting sex between Bo/various men and Bo/various women differ, and why. There’s the obvious issue of directors having to cover more parts with the ladies (hi, FCC / CRTC!), there are aesthetic choices depending on what the scene is trying to get across, there is character personality to take into account, etc.

Bo was feeling blue and needed a pick-me-up.Interestingly, there has so far been no on-screen audio or visual depiction of orgasm when Bo was with a woman only (plenty of audio intimation in 1.04 when she had a threesome). There’s plenty of aftermath and suggestion of what just happened. One could argue for a little bit of 03.04, perhaps. But the first time there’s a visible orgasm during a woman/woman liaison is here, and it’s all metaphorical.

And what. a. metaphor. Lost Girl has plenty of phallic imagery (especially when Bo pulls that knife on guys; something else I plan to address with my upcoming episodic analysis), but has stuck to intimations and a couple joke-y references about battery-powered things and women making other women climax.

Until Bo sticks a needle into Tamsin, yanks her hair back, pushes the plunger while sucking her chi, and they make that face and those sounds; simultaneously, no less. I haven’t seen this better done since, well,

But I don't mention the B word in the review, so this counts as cutting back on the comparisons, right?

Also, Tamsin immediately makes a trojan joke.

So let’s make no mistake, while Tamsin and Bo didn’t jump into bed, they had metaphorical sex the way sci-fi does best: via suggestion, needles, and some after-effect blue sparklies.

I’m sorry, where was I? Ah yes. Bo and Tamsin proceed to take out the entire room of guards and free the prisoners. Bo and Aife run for it . . . straight into a freshly-mutated Isaac. He refers to Bo and Aife as ‘pets,’ which is a reversal of humans calling Fae that, and about to have an even better second meaning (hint: bunnies). Isaac goes for Bo with a knife, and – as we all knew she would – Aife steps in the way and takes the knife for Bo, traditionally a father-for-son sacrifice. When Bo has to run out following Tamsin and some shaky logic, Aife reflexively feeds on the cabbit to gain her strength. It’s just as well. Evil/Crazy Aife is good for the story.

He's so adorable I just want to squeeze him.It’s getting pretty heavy, so time for a little comic relief, as usual, via Kenzi, who is melting her beefstick Bruce into puddles. More surprising than Bruce’s being Hale’s employee is his Ph.D in medieval Fae verse. That face tattoo is more than shorthand for ‘badass,’ it probably references Chaucer.

The important takeaway from their interaction is that Kenzi confirms she wants to become Fae, the better to rescue her friends. Bruce’s response is ‘I’m coming with you, and we’re taking The Morrigan’s car,’ to which Kenzi squeals “I love you.” Dude’s not the greatest actor, but his delivery of “I love you, too” is priceless.

Tamsin, how many times do I have to tell you, no spikey toys?Back to the dark stuff: Tamsin’s betrayal and her showdown with Bo has finally arrived, and other than one awfully-timed reaction to being hit with a platter, it’s pretty epic. Tamsin and Bo really bring the toys to the party, and after they throw down, they bring the emotional impact, too. This one fight and post-fight conversation carried more weight than most of the Dawning. Bo and Tamsin may not love or trust each other (yet?), but there’s a deep-seated mutual respect. 

No such thing exists between Dyson and Isaac, despite Issac claiming “we’re connected.” When Lauren told Dyson she injected him with six doses of anesthetic, my immediate guess was she gave Dyson something she knew he could handle and Isaac couldn’t, or something that would mutate with werewolf bone marrow. I was missing the more obvious answer, which was Lauren taking her time helping the cabbit to extract bone marrow, too. As cabbit-marrow turns Isaac into natural wolf-bait, it’s a pretty perfect solution, though I personally think making Isaac bear 38 children would be far worse. Brava, Lauren. (More of my thoughts about the whole Lauren plotline below.)

In case there was any doubt, Dyson is picking Isaac out of his teeth.

Tamsin picks up Dyson post-feed, and they start back towards the Dal to meet Bo when the truck stereo goes haywire and Tamsin sees The Wanderer in the road ahead – apparently his theme music gets broadcast in a 1000-foot radius. She floors it, only to hit a vapor which sends the truck over a convenient cliff. The vapor immediately shows up at the Dal to take Bo and leave a calling card in broken glass, thoughtfully composed so as to make a perfect final shot for the season.

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While sending two characters over a cliff in a truck, leaving another character MIA, and abducting our main succubus all count as cliffhangers, there’s another one: Tamsin says the hairs are woven together “with the kiss of someone who will never betray you.” That someone is Kenzi, and the rune glass fails to work at all. Dollars to donuts this crops up again, and not in a good way. 

This episode packs a lot into 44 minutes, but doesn’t resolve much other than Isaac. Tamsin got the most backstory, and Lauren is MIA after the surgery, which means the writers can do anything at all with her. She could still be a hostage. She can be trying to use this as a way to escape all Fae. She could be trying to rescue Bo and/or Dyson and Tamsin. Poor Lauren. She’s the perfect writer’s punching bag. 

Speaking of Lauren. I can like the way a show does something without liking what it’s actually doing. I can like what a show does, without liking how it goes about it. (Luther, in particular, infuriates me both ways.) But there’s another category: loving what an episode does, and how it does it, but not the characters it uses for specific plot lines. Whether Lauren falls into this category or not for me depends entirely on one thing: when she knew what she knew; specifically, what Isaac is.

I would have been disappointed if Lauren had been playing this game for weeks. For Lauren – the character who in the first season talks about not being out in the field; who wants to carefully, with backup, figure out the best plan of attack; who is better with her wits than her physical capabilities – to take it upon herself to go alone, unarmed, and with no backup into Isaac’s castle would be unthinkable. 

See, that's a look of 'what are you, nuts?'

But Melanie, you say, it’s for story, like you mentioned the last episode did. Sure, willing suspension of disbelief has already been raised to a new form by modern sci-fi and fantasy (can I just call it sci-fan for short? I feel like this should already be a thing). We’re talking vampires and aliens and succubi. But.

What is so great about sci-fan is its ability to get to the truth of humanity in ways dramas and even comedies often can’t. It can explore our deepest fears in visceral ways, and bring to life our nightmares to teach us how to slay them. To do all this in the best way, its emotions, characterizations, and basic functions still need to be recognizable and consistent. Unless you have a character like Spock, who is supposed to lack human traits in order to help us figure them out, you have to keep humans acting in a way they would in ‘real life’, even if they’re in a campy atmosphere or occasionally stretch a reaction ot two. If careful Lauren, one of only two humans in the main group of characters, acts so out-of-her-established-personality as to seamlessly go undercover and change the basis of her character’s personality for three whole episodes, it blows the whole arc up for me.

Which is all to say, though the story isn’t clearly settled yet, the sense I get is Lauren wasn’t fully aware what she was walking into (partly due to her emotional reaction to go with Taft, partly due to the Light Fae’s insistence at keeping her in the dark, partly due to necessities of story), but managed to save the day anyways.

Everyone else stayed fairly true, as well. Kenzi was feisty and hilarious, while getting herself out of a scrape this time. Aife rambled. Tamsin came to her inevitable conclusion and fought her damndest but was ultimately swayed by mutual admiration and Bo’s goodness. Dyson got to hunt stuff. Hale ditched the politics which were dragging him down. Trick rode off into the sunset with Stella, probably to take a couple episodes off, only to return with more encyclopedic knowledge. The whole series is about Bo’s evolution from someone who is wholly lost to someone who knows herself, is a better person, and has found family, and while this episode didn’t do a lot for Bo, this season has, and I think her run-in with The Wanderer will kickstart another steep learning curve.

Thus, though we end on several cliffhangers, I’m quite happy how the whole thing went.

Stray Observations

  • Bo/some writer really likes the word ‘kinky.’ It’s a fun word. Kinky kinky kinky.

  • Split ends. A fate worse than death.

  • Exactly WHICH battles did TamTam influence with the blink of her smoky eyes?

  • I don’t know where the magical rock garden is that Hale and Lauren get their stones from, but it’d come in great handy if I could find out.

  • I love that you can’t quite tell whether Tamsin would love or hate ‘slut heaven.’

  • Tamsin finally openly admits she’s willing to fight for Dyson. Season 4 love rhombus! But Dyson, word from the wise: if someone’s near-dying wish is that you get her Wilco bootleg, that’s true love.

  • Tamsin calling Bo ‘Meryl Streep’ was one of at least five movie references, including Wrath of the Titans, Pretty Woman, and Back to the Future.

  • “You really are the chosen one.” Chosen one as in female Christ-figure, as well as mythological implications?

  • I hope Bruce becomes a running guest star, a la Ranjit in HIMYM.

  • “It’s like my birthday, La Shoshan, and the Saint Valentine’s Day Massacre, all rolled into one.” Ah, I missed Vex.

  • The after-effects were pretty pedestrian; but then, they spent a lot of money on actors, sets, and likely Tamsin’s rocking jacket for this episode.

  • Wow, do those set designers ever like their squares.

So long as none of the characters are squares.

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111 Responses to “Lost Girl: Season 3, Episode 13, Those Who Wander”
  1. Melanie says:

    Somebody asked me via Twitter if I saw Bo in this episode as disempowered. Some of her examples were: Bo (‘the chosen one’) stood by as Tamsin conquered all the guards. Lauren gave Bo a tongue-lashing, and Bo just took it. Bo let Aife take a knife for her. Bo seemed ‘edited to facilitate plot.’

    In reverse order:

    4. There was so MUCH plot in the past three episodes, I think all the characters took a little bit of a beating. Sins of omission (not developing someone as much as maybe would be ideal) or tiny tweaks (Dyson yelling at Lauren after they;ve been bonding) are far better than large sins of commission (changing Lauren’s entire personality). So yes, she was cut down a little. More on that in Point 1.

    3. I’d be more inclined to buy Aife taking the knife for Bo if Isaac hadn’t telegraphed the stabbing from halfway across the room. I’m more inclined to think this a directing/editing oversight, because I see how Aife as a character is trying for redemption here, it was just clumsily executed.

    2. Lauren is Bo’s achilles heel right now. When Bo decided to go for the relationship with Lauren, she made herself completely vulnerable, and then she put Lauren through quite a bit on top of it. Then, she went from being an insensitive girlfriend (through stress and lack of experience) to being guilt-ridden, to trying to save not just her relationship but Lauren’s life . . . and Dyson’s and Tamsin’s. Then Lauren throws it all in her face, and she just takes it, her one defense being that she loves Lauren. I actually like this as a strong response because she realizes all of Lauren’s other points are both valid *and* were ignored by her (Bo) at the earlier point when they were dating. I think it’s a sign of growth that Bo doesn’t get defensive and argumentative here.

    Of course, It may also be a sign she’s in shock.

    1. Work smarter, not harder. As we saw in the opening scene, Bo’s powers don’t always work as planned. It’s a big room. They have guns. Why not let the Valkyrie take them on?

    So yes, in all these ways Bo bends a bit, or maybe a better way to say it is she takes a back seat in the scenes. This episode is bringing Tamsin’s demons out, and bringing Lauren’s story to a head. The whole overarching story of Bo finding herself encompasses these people she’s coming to find as family, and sometimes, it’s more about them. I don’t think that means she’s disempowered, so long as it’s not constant. I do think much has to do with the last three episodes packing so much in.

    • Thomas Jacks says:

      [SPOILER ALERT – added by moderator – this comment discusses explicit plot points from the whole series]

      Bo was the daughter of Hades. We didn’t know that around this time, but she was a weak lead.

      Season one, she needed the chi blocker to get the drop on Aife.
      Two she needed to thrall her fae friends to beat the garuda.
      Three. Lauren, Dyson and Tamsin fought their enemies.
      Four. Kenzi and the portal.
      By season 5, we all should’ve predicted a weak climatic fight and we weren’t let down.

      • trixtah says:

        thanks for the spoiler dude
        (OK, I know it’s like 7 years later, but this article doesn’t spoil future plot points, and I haven’t seen the whole show yet)

        • Melanie says:

          I moderated the comment *only* to include a spoiler warning.

          I think Thomas Jacks assuming a comment under a post with a SPOILER WARNING, and 7 years later, is total fair game, but may as well add it since I can! Cheers.

          • Thomas Jacks says:

            One thing I’ve learned about Lost Girl is not everyone watched it the same way. So I may not have spoiled anything for you.

            My comments were simply meant to point out that Bo should’ve had substantial growth given who she really was and not be so dependent on others.

            That’s all I’m going to speak about it because my interpretations of Bo can become argumentative. Lol!

            • trixtah says:

              Yep, sorry, I’m not normally quite so delicate about spoilers – I talk about entire show arcs on social all the time, about shows that finished much more recently. And I don’t actually care unless it’s a major plot point.

              I suppose I tend to get cues from whether the main post goes into detail from other eps, but of course the OP is from a fair old while ago too! So, with the understanding that the entire thing may come up in comments, I’ll skip them for now until I finish watching the show.

              Sorry for the grump, it was just the first time I’d run across something so specific in these comments!

  2. Jordan Thane says:

    I think what I like the most about your reviews is that they’re completely unbiased and address the issues at hand that are so easily overlooked. You always give me something to think about, like the whole sexual side of Tamsin and Bo’s ‘juice me’ interaction. Sometimes even I miss things or don’t fully recognise the significance of certain scenes even though I know something is being said. 😀 I love that you got/understood the whole Lauren/Bo interaction. So many people didn’t.
    Can’t wait to read your reviews from the beginning 🙂

  3. Hi, Melanie. I do enjoy your reviews. Thank you.

    I did not view Bo as disempowered as ValksyLG did in this finale. But I often take a very broad view. To preface my position, I will say that I have really enjoyed season 3; I think it is the tightest season to date. I’m not sure if I am in the minority on that one or not.

    So, my very broad view is that the show is called “Lost Girl,” with the premise that a lost girl will be found by finding herself, her family, her friends, and her place in the world. For that to work, it’s an ensemble, character-driven show. The characters matter. And, I think that a natural extension of finding yourself and your family, you develop the trust among them that allows you to depend on them. Bo doesn’t have to do it all herself; people have her back. And, I think that makes sense story-wise, too.

    I’ve actually wondered for awhile about Bo’s reputation of being so powerful, so innately powerful among the Fae. I wasn’t always sure that was justified because most of these characters have been helping her from the start, and some of her earliest demonstrations were not that convincing to me. But, finally, I’m seeing glimpses of that power. But what I am finding more intriguing about that is that her supersuccubus seems to be developing in tandem with Bo’s thoughtfulness, meaning I don’t see Bo being as impulsive as she originally was. Because, let’s be honest here, Bo’s running into the fire, per se, often caused bigger problems than the fire.

    If her emerging thoughtfulness and/or caution is OOC, it begs the question for me, at least, if Bo’s supersuccubus is a possession. It’s unclear at this point, so I will assume that her thoughtfulness and restraint is part of her personal evolution until there is an explicit revelation of something different to that.

    For these reasons, I do not see Bo as disempowered in the finale. While she may not be the acting agent in each of the cited encounters, she does seem to be the center around which all these encounters revolve. And, another very broad view of Bo is that I think one of the sources of her empowerment is the devotion she inspires in others through her devotion to them. And, as much as that demon-voiced supersuccubus might suggest, I don’t think Bo is a megalomaniac; I don’t think she *wants* to do it all.

    But, one of my issues with the finale is Trick’s behavior; it definitely seemed OOC for him. I mean, he wasn’t worried about anyone there at the end. He was acting as if everything had been resolved. Did he even ask about Bo, Dyson, Lauren, or Kenzi? I don’t think he did. And, he’s going off to Scotland without that kind of intel, or even checking in with Bo? I mean, his demeanor was of total relief and ‘I’m over this.’ It was a weird juxtaposition to the uncertainty of everyone else’s situations.

    OK, this is a bit of a dog’s breakfast in terms of organization; it’s rambling, I know. But here’s another Bo thought. —I haven’t always been very sure about how I feel about Bo as a character. Maybe in the beginning I couldn’t suspend belief about certain things. Or, maybe I didn’t think she was very empowered at all, but more childish. But, now, she really resonates with me. I feel as though I understand her a lot better. And, I think it’s because I do sense her progression and her willingness to grow by making mistakes and learning from them, for example, something that seems impossible for Trick.

    Anyway, I’ve been wrong many times before, and I concede that possibility for this perspective.

    • Melanie says:

      I think what you say about family and finding yourself really gets at Tamsin’s little speech, ‘maybe you don’t love and trust the way you claim.’ Her friends have all touched on a specific thing Bo had to learn later in life than most: trusting someone else to save your hide and not turn you in (Dyson); truly opening yourself up (Kenzi); and caring about other people’s problems (Lauren). But she’s still holding out in some ways, wanting to always be the savior, the independent, headstrong one running into the fire, as you say. Learning when to be thoughtful and think twice is something which will become more important especially as she deals with her parents, an area already volatile for most mere mortals. I think Lauren, especially, has taught her something about this, but I do think the transition can be tricky for the writers to make it seem like she’s really doing it for the right reasons and not just being wishy-washy.

      As for Trick, I don’t really know what to do with him, and I don’t think the writers did, either. Bo doesn’t need him as a constant shepherd anymore, but they don’t operate as equals yet either (as much as one can when one is related so closely), so they rather just wrote him off. It was a weird vibe indeed.

      Personally, I liked the ‘young girl’ vibe, temper tantrums and all. This is way too long a psychoanalysis for this blog, but I’ll say I didn’t really get into the world and start figuring out what it meant to be an adult until I was 22-23, and that I was and still can be pretty childish in a bad way, so it *did* resonate with me, and I’m glad they’re letting her grow rather than riding the high school drama.

      • Hi, Melanie. I really appreciate that you take the time and obviously are very thoughtful about your responses to these comments. Taking my lead from you, I would just like to fill in (fill out?) my comment re: a childish Bo. It’s true, I didn’t warm up to Bo immediately, though the show hooked me in its first episode. One of the show’s major plot devices, across all seasons so far, has been that everyone knows more about Bo than Bo knows about herself. And, even the audience learns stuff about Bo that isn’t necessarily shared with Bo. Much of this is accomplished through expository by other characters. And, since 1.01 there seems to be some kind of prophecy following Bo (I’ve written about it on my tumblr blog). And, even Bo acknowledges that she’s like a baby with all the Fae stuff in 1.02. To me, this is reminiscent of the Harry Potter grand story. But in the case of HP, I can understand it more because he *is* a child. Bo isn’t. She’s a fully grown person when she finds her way to the Fae. So, maybe I’m actually more upset seeing other characters treat her like a child. And, in the beginning, Bo could not call them on it. She’s gotten much better about that. So, now, I look at it as a growing phase, in which Bo needed to establish some foundation to know what’s up and what’s down, so to speak. So, perhaps my indecisiveness just needed to see Bo call them on that kind of behavior. They still do it, of course, but she sees it for what it is now. So, it wasn’t just her young vibe, or her young vibe in any respect, as much as it was other characters treating her like a child. I mean, it’s a regular thing on LG, but you just have to watch 1.01 when Dyson & Hale bring her into the LF HQ to question her to see what I mean. Trick is perhaps the worst offender. Like Dumbledore withholding vital, useful, important information from HP, Trick is doing that to Bo. Nothing good can come of it, except maybe a few good seasons of close calls.

        And, I really not convinced that Bo’s buildup as some extraordinary Fae (by the Fae themselves) was completely justified, at least that I could understand or discern in those early episodes. That’s what I meant by suspending my disbelief and/or doubt about her power. I guess I didn’t have a measure of what a very powerful Fae was, so I wasn’t convinced just by characters telling me she was. I wasn’t able to discern it for myself from watching her. I guess this only really matters because Bo is the audience’s POV into the world, too. She’s the one character best posed for the greatest character journey because she’s the least established. So, admittedly, it took me awhile to warm up to Bo, or rather, get to know the character without all the props built into the show’s expository aspects.

        I really didn’t intend my comments to be about age and adulthood. I’m pretty sure I’m older than you and I don’t feel like I’m an adult yet. I really didn’t mean it in those terms at all. It’s that agency thing again, isn’t it? I resented how others were treating her because it takes away her agency when they make decisions they think is best for her without even consulting her.

        • Melanie says:

          I did misinterpret. I like the way introducing a new world allows for a non-teenager to have a bildungsroman story, and since thus she takes on some immature attributes along with that, and I enjoyed that arc, I ran that direction. But I get what you were saying now, and thanks for the thorough explanation.

  4. I’ve never commented before, but I’ve been reading your Lost Girl reviews for a while and first of all want to say that I always really enjoy what you have to say about the show. In regard to this episode, I’m want to know your thoughts on this:

    I was actually very confused about what the writers were trying to call attention to when the druid’s potion didn’t work, mostly because Tamsin apparently misremembers the hair numbers. In 3.10, Acacia says “one hair from someone she loves, two from someone she trusts, and three from her own head.” In that episode she very clearly only gets one hair from Lauren, so although we can’t really tell how many she gets from Dyson, we can probably assume it’s two. However, here in 3.13, Tamsin tells Bo “One hair from someone you trust, two from someone you love, and three from your own head.” I’m having a hard time deciding if this was an intentional discrepancy or if someone in editing or writing messed up. If it was intentional then it seems that maybe this isn’t foreshadowing Kenzie’s betrayal, but rather that Acacia or Tamsin simply mixed up the proper hair numbers. However, this seems like a far less interesting choice on the writers’ part. What are your thoughts?

    • Melanie says:

      Huh! At the time I called it an ‘ambiguous number of hairs from a comb Dyson obviously rarely uses,’ because I thought the writers were toying with viewers. In my head it went something like ‘since Tamsin went to Dyson’s place first, we didn’t know what she got from Lauren, so do they want us to think Tamsin thinks Dyson was truly Bo’s love,’ etc., etc.

      But, I didn’t notice the discrepancy in this episode. Now, it could be something as simple as Rachel Skarsten delivering the line wrong, the director liking that take, and the script supervisor not noticing the words were wrong. The editor likely would just use the circled take and his/her brain would magically fix the numbers, like mine did upon hearing it, because I knew what it *should* have been.

      It’s entirely possibly it’s something more sinister, though, and while it seems anticlimactic to have this whole potion ruined by Tamsin’s lack of memorization skills, she was drinking pretty heavily at the time, and subconsciously wanted to save Bo. Maybe whoever is ordering her around will demand she pay for the mistake the was Acacia did. (By the way, Tamsin assumes Acacia is dead, but I think she’s in the writers’ back pocker, keeping the first Ash company).

      One has to wonder, though, why include the kiss at all if it wasn’t relevant? It’s an awful lot of work for something with no payoff, if it’s never mentioned again.

      In other words, I have no concrete answer for you, and am left with only more questions. I have you to thank for that. Or blame. Yes, blame.

      Seriously, though, thanks for reading, and for the comment! Do come again and make me think/obsess some more.

      • Haha my bad. Didn’t mean to leave you with a million more questions! (although I kind of figured that might happen, so yeah. Oops. Haha I’ll take the blame on this one).

        I totally understand your logic there, and it does make sense that Tamsin would think that Bo truly loves Dyson. I just assumed that the eyelash she took from Lauren counted as one hair, though, which in the context of 3.10 would mean that Tamsin assumed Lauren was the one Bo loved. However, if we assume that the switch in 3.13 was indeed intentional on the writer’s part, then that could point to Tamsin just being so drunk/stressed that she got the one hair/two hair thing confused and believed that, by taking one hair from Lauren, that Bo trusted Lauren and loved Dyson. Still, that seems like an unclear and convoluted way to draw attention to, what? That Tamsin thinks Bo loves Dyson? That Bo might not truly love Lauren? That she doesn’t trust Dyson? That Tamsin purposely said it backwards to try and throw Bo off? Or are the writers just trying to cast even more doubt in the minds of the viewers so that we don’t feel that we have a proper answer in regard to who Bo loves? (those last two could be interesting choices, as doubt is kind of Tamsin’s thing, but still messy). Oh my. Speaking of convoluted: this paragraph. I think I’ve confused myself with all of this one hair, two hair nonsense. Now that I’ve completely overanalyzed this, I’m tempted to believe that the line was simply a mistake.

        My initial thought was also that Rachel Skarsten probably just mixed up the line and that it got past editing, as much as I want to believe that this was a deliberate and clever choice made by the writers. Unfortunate, seeing as this whole “who does Bo really love?” thing is kind of important, but I’m just failing to see what the writers would be trying to convey if this mix-up were intentional. Kenzi’s possibly betrayal would be a far more interesting storyline than a further rehashing of the love triangle, in my opinion. In regard to the purpose of the Kenzi-Massimo kiss, I suppose that it could have just been a way to introduce Kenzi to a character who could make her fae, but then again there are loads of other ways that could have been accomplished (especially since now Dr. Hotpants can, apparently, do that with science).

        Woah, looks like I took your invitation to obsess quite literally. Anyway, I’m very much looking forward to your reviews of the rest of Lost Girl and what you’ll have to say about the portrayal of same-sex vs. opposite sex relations. Maybe I can weigh in with some commentary that’s not exclusivity about ambiguous hair counts.

        In other news, I’m also waiting for both the first Ash and for Acacia to return. Gotta love ambiguous character disappearances! Your phrasing there also made me visualize Acacia and the Ash just hanging out together in limbo enjoying a few beers and some general snark and bad-assery. Fun stuff.

        • Melanie says:

          Well I thought that when Tamsin went to Dyson’s apartment, she mistakenly thought ‘trust’ was one hair, and then remembered correctly at Lauren’s that ‘love’ was the one hair. Now you’ve introduced a dozen more theories, AND brought Tamsin’s doubt-play into things. Exactly how far down does this rabbit hole go, I wonder!?

          You know, I work in film/tv, and thought about applying for a job on set. I now think I must, and the first thing I would do after first day’s wrap is find the scripty and beg the answer to the question of whether it was an honest mistake or not. At least then I’d know there was something to psychoanalyze and I wasn’t going *entirely* nuts.

          • Rachel says:

            I think it’s intentional. I’ve read speculation from people who seem quite into paganism that gathering these hairs is meant to create a hex or spell on Bo (as we saw)… which would have mitigated her powers. Tamsin was sent to do this, so she could deliver Bo to the Wanderer. Yet, from what I read, when the hairs you gather are ‘stressed’ because the relationships they represent are stressed, the hex/spell is weakened. It’s why I think Tamsin intentionally told Lauren about her and Bo’s kiss… in a pretty darn demeaning way. Lauren’s hair, now, carries with it mixed feelings and stress that could weaken the spell. Ha… you all have sent me to explore pagan sites for any evidence this has some foundation. Found… http://witchesofthecraft.com/2013/02/12/life-as-the-witch-things-that-weaken-or-ruin-spellcasting/

            I think this was foreshadowed with the witches in 3×11. When Bo joined their circle their powers were joined as they summoned Lisa to kill. It was when the two witches began fighting, while they were still in the circle, that the circle weakened and broke apart… and (I think?) Lisa ‘came to’ from the spell and found herself with a knife in her hand.

            Maybe Tamsin switching up the hair numbers before she smashed the bottle (symbolically ‘blowing up’ the Triangle?) further weakened the Druid’s spell?

            • Haha oh man, I really have dragged everyone pretty far down this rabbit hole with me! Like I said, I really do hope that it’s intentional and that it’ll be brought back in some clever way next season. For the sake of my sanity, though, I’m going to let it go for the moment and wait to see if they address it next season before I obsess again (or until Melanie gets a job on the set and kidnaps the script to find out for us. Here’s hoping!)

              Rachel, your point about Tamsin trying to weaken the spell is definitely an interesting possibility. I’d say more on that, but I’m pretty sure I just claimed I wouldn’t obsess about this further.

              Can’t wait to see what season four will hold!

              • Rachel says:

                No worries 🙂 I like thinking about things from different angles. And agree — I’m curious about season 4, too!

                • Kendrick says:

                  I think I’ve read all the posts concerning the serum bottle, forgive me if I’m repeating what someone else already said. I know you guys have thoroughly diagnosed the potion bottle issue, and pardon me for jumping in, but thanks to Rachel, you made it clear it was okay to do that. So, ah… I believe the potion did work. Shortly after Tamsin smashed it, The Wanderer appeared on the dirt road. Not much later he was scooping up Bo in a ‘Lost’ like swirl of black smoke.

                  Tamsin assumed it didn’t work because Bo didn’t become all submissive right away. But, as it’s been pointed out countless times, in many contrived and awkward conversations; Bo is pretty special and perhaps it was a delayed reaction due to her uniqueness. Previously, the Wanderer has only been able to interact with Bo through the Merry Go Round thingy, or invading her somehow when she is under distress. I find it interesting that the first time he makes a corporeal (sort of) appearance is after the potion bottle was smashed. It’s just a thought I had way after processing the episode initially. I feel like the whole conversation about the bottle was a huge misdirection. A Magicians trick to get everyone to doubt Bo’s relationships, and to get Bo to doubt her relationships. Thanks so much for the fun analysis that goes down on your blog Melanie.

                  • Melanie says:

                    Hmmm. I do like this explanation! Whether it’s correct or not I suppose we’ll find out. It’s even more interesting depending on who Tamsin is working for. Perhaps, the bottle was needed all along to allow The Wanderer to materialize, and Tamsin wouldn’t have done it had she known that would be the result (since she obviously thinks his appearance is a Bad Thing), but her boss planned to manipulate her into being the one close enough to all the main player to get what was needed, then manipulated her into thinking it was just to weaken Bo, as opposed to bring The Wanderer. Tamsin said herself, she’s not completely clear on what the druids do with the bottle. And yes, the fun side effect is Bo doubting her relationships (as a counterpoint to 02.22, where he friends had to be stopped from infighting). And Tamsin’s power is doubt, even when she’s not actively using it to defeat armies. The more I talk about this, the more sense it makes . . .

                    • megan_jade says:

                      Wow, I really hope your theory is correct because that would be a really interesting way to go with it. It really ties everything together and would make a lot of sense. It was bothering me that The Wanderer simply grabbed Bo in a cloud of smoke after having gone through all of the hassle of sending Tamsin after her with the rune bottle. Why didn’t he just do that as soon as he knew who/where Bo was? I love the idea that the whole thing was meant to manipulate Tamsin into casting the spell to allow The Wanderer to materialize.

                      We’ll have to see where they actually go with it, though! I just hope they don’t pull another “Nadia was infested by the Geruda and that’s why she was acting weird” type of explanation. I’m still disappointed by that. There were so many more interesting ways that they could have gone!

                      Also, can I just say again that I love the conversation/theories that go down on this blog? So refreshing to get away from all of the doccubus/valkubus/dybo shipping wars (not that I don’t have my own opinions on all of that, but I find that when people are too attached to a specific ship they tend to only see show through that particular lens). It’s lovely that people here are willing to consider things from so many different angles!

                  • Rachel says:

                    If this were facebook, I’d like your comment 🙂 Really interesting possibility/way of looking at it that would make a lot of sense 🙂 I hadn’t connected the Wanderer’s appearance with the smashing of the bottle.

                  • Rachel says:

                    (in response to your last comment… which won’t let me respond I guess because the threads is too deep)

                    I also love that this space (both review and comments) is used to explore episodes from a variety of angles… and that we’re all interested in that. What an intelligent, open-minded way to interact with tv (or… with Lost Girl). And I also agree that the show has much more to explore than ‘shipping wars.’ Though of course relationships, and characters, are included in exploration. Thank you Melanie and everyone.

  5. tech-color says:

    Thanks again for a great review, Melanie! I did not catch some of the things you mentioned and it is great to look from a different perspective. Though for me the fight between Bo and Tamsin was just cringe-worthy.

    I also agree that Lauren did not go undercover or knew Taft’s ulterior motives. She went with him because she wanted a change, a chance to do something and be recognized for her scientific achievements. Unfortunately using an old identity (3.11 – Karen) as a plot device is contrived
    (it has been used so many times on so many shows). The LG writers could have just explored her dissatisfaction with her place as a slave in the LF. But I guess they needed a faster development.

    Since in 3.12 her character was established in direct opposition of Taft in regards to science and how it should be used, I was happy that in 3.13 she stayed on this course and kept her moral ground. Not once she betrayed her principles, while recognizing that down that road she has to make very tough choices – the talk with Bo, playing with Taft and Dyson in order to be the silent hero of the whole episode. Unfortunately I hate how they left her in limbo after that.

    As for the rune glass debacle – I noticed the discrepancy right away and was wondering who messed up – was it intentional, was it writer’s lack of continuity, or shipper service. I never thought about the points you made in your comment. But if it is a continuity error or actress/director one, this is a huge problem because we sci-fi fans analyse everything and such a big change will sound off the alarm so to speak. I hope they explain it later, though I am not holding my breath.

    Now, since I am fan of the show for some time, I believe (and please correct me if I am wrong on that) that the Tamsin character was introduced as a collection of the main characteristics of the others. She is a fighter, who has doubts (represented in Bo), she is snarky and cynical (Kenzi) – the sidekick, she is also the female version of Dyson (just blond)- who also is trying to save Bo on multiple occasions. And we already have those. Though clearly she had to represent the main season arc of the show, I don’t believe she was written particularly good – what we are left with at the end is what was her ultimate goal as a character.

    • Melanie says:

      I like them finally using a wide angle for longer fight shots. The fight during Delinquents was all quick cuts, close-ups, and a couple medium reaction shots. Fight choreography is not their strongest suit. But the set was really lovely and they shattered some things and the actresses did some of their own stunts, and, well, maybe I’m easily pleased, but I liked it.

      I’m not sure why they thought we needed a Karen in the Congo before they’d ever cleared up Afghanistan. One backstory at a time! Yes, you’re right it worked as shorthand, but I thought her imprisonment and the Fae cursing then killing her girlfriend was more than enough motivation.

      They play the disappearing game a lot with Lauren (and lately, Kenzi), with phone calls or a couple quick one-liners by other characters to explain why. But this was really, really egregious. I hope they don’t expect us to forget about her along with Trick, Kenzi, and Hale for the first couple episodes while Tamsin, Dyson, and Bo face The Wanderer.

      This series gives my pinky a workout, all those shift+letter for capitals.

      I agree Tamsin combines and plays off a lot of the main characteristics of the others. And while I wish they had played on it more – a lot more – I think she was supposed to be the ‘dark side’ of said characters. She is not just Dark Fae (as opposed to Dyson, whose prejudices against the Dark could have been explored a lot more but just *poof*, vanished), she’s far less assured in her morality (as opposed to Bo who until recently always believed she was doing the right thing even when it was just the road less travelled), more attacking and careless with her snark (especially represented in 03.04 when she’s sarcastically mocking potentially suicidal patients), and she and Lauren are just diametrically opposed, which is why it’s sad they didn’t get much screen time together. Not that I think they’d get more buddy-buddy like Lauren and Kenzi, but their banter could be great, and I think there’s potential for respect. Tamsin approved of Lauren’s honesty and even that slap.

      I do think a lot of this got lost in the cracks. It may be because the 13-episode season was already trying to work in the Dawning, Bo’s realization that she’s bad at romantic relationships, and a sociopathic killer. I think many of the problems would have been solved by eliminating the Dawning storyline altogether, maybe subbing an extra monster-of-the-week or building up The Morrigan’s rise to power. The really good Fae-ge Against The Machine would have still worked had the machine not been an invitation, and otherwise we just lose the Dyson/Lauren juxtaposition, which could have been done via spell/potion/curse/dream/etc. The rest of the time could have really fleshed Tamsin out as the literal realization of the opposite of many of Bo/Dyson/Kenzi’s defining traits, and could have done it by giving *those* characters something better to do, too.

      But it’s all speculation, and when all’s said and done I really like Tamsin, even if she’s not always used to her full potential. I also really liked the noir detective bit they did the past couple episodes (I’m a sucker, what can I say), and I’m quite happy they didn’t cop out and have her change her mind and sacrifice herself to help the scooby gang, they followed through with her attempted betrayal of Bo, but not before she knew Dyson was safe. That’s all true to character.

      • tech-color says:

        This show is not known for the stellar fighting (except for Kenzi in 3.3) 🙂

        Agree that leaving the Dawning out, and maybe not packing so many storylines in just 2 episodes or extending it more could have been better. The pacing was off for me. And although I enjoyed the final scene of the finale, I felt confused and not in a good way.

        As for Tamsin – good points, especially her being the characters opposite. But I do feel that the introduction of Tamsin and her role took away from other characters development in this season. She was in a way even more central than Bo, which was inexplicable. Some speculate that Tamsin is being prepared to replace Lauren in the love triangle. I honestly don’t know what to think. I liked her as Dyson partner, they had some very good moments.

        • Melanie says:

          Ah yes, that was great! (A little sad Kenzi’s rescue of Dyson was off-screen, but then I understand the ‘human needs Fae item to fight so well’ card can only be played so often.)

          I like Tamsin as the bad-girl sex interest. But she would be an awful replacement for Lauren / long-term partner. She’d only exacerbate all of Bo’s worst tendencies. While Bo fascinates her and vice versa, Tamsin’d rather partner with Dyson. They’ve got chemistry, they’ve grudgingly become good friends, and it’s about time both of them get some more action. It’d also allow the show to explore the dynamic of dating someone in your own occupation, as opposed to Bo and Dyson/Ryan/Lauren, who are all working in disparate fields.

          • tech-color says:

            You are absolutely correct about dating someone in the same field – and I would enjoy Dyson-Tamsin pairing – that could have some hilarious moments. Unfortunately this will not be the case because the triangle is the brain child of the executive producer and additionally they already put themselves in a corner with “wolves mate for life” story.

            Moreover, if they substitute Tamsin for Lauren they will lose that Fae-unaligned-human interaction that was so central for the development of Bo and thus losing integral connection to her morality and her choice for humanity in earlier seasons. Although LF-unaligned-DF would make sense for some, this triangle will represent us with characters that are all brute force types of personalities – nothing interesting in the long term.

            I have to admit, I did not thought of something you mentioned – that Tamsin could amplify Bo’s worst tendencies – this is some very good point.

      • Rachel says:

        To my mind, once Taft kept knocking on Lauren’s door (she even jokingly referred to him as a stalker, didn’t she?), and then when he brought up her fbi file (which she felt to be blackmail), all which happened before she decided to go with him, once those things happened it would feel like an OOC Lauren, to me, if she with him purely out of wanting to start a new life for herself. Even if she doesn’t feel useful and is treated abusively at times by the fae, some red flags must have been raised for her. I doubt she knew what Taft was up to, or what she was walking into, but she must have intuited something. I also see her as willing to make huge sacrifices for the greater good, even sacrifices of life and limb (and love), which feels in character, and is why I could see her going with Taft, alone, if she believed going alone was the best way she could find out more information about something potentially dangerous.

        I totally see what you’re saying about Lauren liking to make plans, with back up, getting nervous, etc. True. And, she’s also a character able to keep a girlfriend in a coma a secret for 1.5 seasons, have a hidden identity (as far as we know), etc. — all while maintaining a quite solid ‘sense of self’ and genuinely being in relationships with others. And she fooled Taft and Dyson, and perhaps Bo, so she’s got hutzpah and a poker face to boot.

        ZP killed the scene between her and Bo. In that one scene she played up to Taft and his logic, communicated powerful issues standing between her and Bo, protected Bo, created a way to help Dyson and the fae, and, imo, emoted love for Bo (definitely not a fairytale love… or even a love in need of reciprocation) even if she was saying otherwise. Also, did you notice that she entered the scene in a very similar way to how she entered her first scene with Bo in 3×1? Coming from behind a curtain/wall and responding to a conversation Bo’s having with someone else.


        • Melanie says:

          It’s always hard to determine how much the writers are doing intentionally, and how much I’m reading into situations, especially with a show that doesn’t always have talkback scenes carefully spelling everything out (which on a general basis I appreciate, but sometimes muddles the waters).

          That said.

          It initially felt somewhat out of character, but the more I thought the more I saw it as a mistake made through 1) a wish to escape and start over and getting in a little over her head (as do all the characters on this show at one point or another – pumps up the drama!) 2) lack of recognition of warning signs, due to general conditioning. Constant exposure to imprisonment can have a bit of a Stockholm effect even on people who are trying to be aware of it, and make other behavior look that much less absurd or harmful. You go from someone telling you when to be in the compound every night to someone who is persisting because he ‘really admires your work,’ you may make a joke about the second thing being obsessive, but it doesn’t strike you as being truly horrible or dangerous, at first. I don’t know if they’re intentionally making a statement about how rape culture / misogyny makes even intelligent, independent women overlook warning signs of obsessive or inappropriate behavior until it’s too late, but that’s a very real thing, and I think it’s . . . ‘positive role model’ is not the right term because the behavior being modelled isn’t what’s idea, but it’s refreshing to see someone who is established as a capable, intelligent being can still be blind to stalking behavior because male/authority control of women is so deeply ingrained and male obsession based on attraction is so excused in our culture.

          tl;dr – women can overlook inappropriate behavior because of personal or cultural conditioning, and that doesn’t make them dumb or incapable, and it doesn’t excuse or give consent to anything that happens to them because of this.

          As for your note on the entrances, I’m a sucker for parallel shots, and that’s a great one!

          • Rachel says:

            I think what you’re saying is that the writers may have been modeling the trap (that even intelligent, independent women can make) of ‘falling’ for a domineering male due to not seeing the red flags, for whatever reason. Hmm…

            I like how stories show ideas and stereotypes, and their impacts, rather than tell them. Showing can be quite powerful. Same holds true in teaching 🙂

          • Thomas Jacks says:

            Lauren could’ve been going for a clean break from the Fae and used Taft to do it. The problem is Bo and her always getting captured wolf boyfriend was never going to let her go.

  6. tech-color says:

    I forgot to mention in mt previous post that I found it slightly interesting that during his conversation with Lauren, Taft mentioned crickets when he was with his brother. Which could be a throw directly to the Bo’s dawning training.

  7. Kendrick says:

    When did Lost Girl show Bo having and orgasm with a man? I know the scenes with Dyson were very sexual but I don’t recall them actually making it clear there was an ‘orgasm.’ I’m just curious because you seemed to focus on the girl/girl action not showing a climax, except for this current scene with Tamsin? I guess I’m wondering what the point was? I totally agree that the scene with Tamsin was probably meant to be interpreted the way you described. I just don’t understand why you thought this issue of m/f orgasm vs. f/f was so significant? Is one better than the other? Is it intentional on the behalf of the show runners?

    On another note your review is great. I love Kenzi, she always brings the levity. I’m grateful you acknowledged that Lauren’s cold act toward Bo was an act. I disagree with your analysis that Bo was not disempowered during this episode. But I can agree to disagree and still think your review was very good and hit on all the key elements of the episode. I actually think Bo’s thunder has be absent since ep. 6. Whether it is because of her devolution and the dawning? I don’t know, but her normally caring character is ‘off ‘ which I understand is probably intentional. I’m willing to trust the writers to get it together for next season. I found the last half of this season to be murky at best.

    Thank you for the thorough, thoughtful, summary of this finale.

    • Melanie says:

      I must admit I didn’t go through and count, though I seem to recall there were a couple. The one that stands out is with Dyson in 1.08, and this is significant because they shot this episode as the pilot. There are a lot of reasons for that (and I’m going to double-review this episode and talk about why that unorthodox decision worked so well), but the key to me is: they sold the pilot to the network with the traditional hetero relationship bringing the ‘climax.’

      My beef with this has nothing to do with Lost Girl but with traditional network double standards. There’s long been a hesitancy to just allow women to display as much sexual enjoyment and agression as men – which is why that opening scene of 1.08 is actually also quite daring, as they sold the polit with Bo as immediately the initiator and main focus.

      A couple years ago the MPAA gave Blue Valentine an NC-17 rating, and Ryan Gosling told the review board “There’s plenty of oral sex scenes in a lot of movies, where it’s a man receiving it from a woman – and they’re R-rated. Ours is reversed and somehow it’s perceived as pornographic.” He added: “How is it possible that these movies that torture women in a sexual context can have an R rating but a husband and wife making love is inappropriate?” http://aol.it/13bnQNl The review board apparently realized their hypocrisy and reversed their ruling, and somehow the world didn’t spin into the sun.

      There’s a ‘woman pleasure’ phobia, but also a ‘gay phobia.’ The scene I compared the Bo/Tamsin scene to was in a show with the same problem – Buffy was able to have a storyline where Buffy and Riley literally couldn’t stop having sex, and it was killing them, but they couldn’t show girls in a bed under the sheets together, talking and drinking hot cocoa.

      Again I’m in no way shape or form saying anything negative about Lost Girl’s portrayal of female sexuality, but I do wonder how much of this is due to character and service of the individual scene, and how much is because networks are squeamish. My point being, are networks standards disallowing ‘literal’ f/f on-screen orgasm, so they must resort to suggestion and metaphors?

      I’ll gladly agree to disagree with you about the disempowerment, but I wholeheartedly agree she’s been a bit ‘off,’ and I wish the whole dawning after-effects had been better handled. But we shall see!

      • MJNuts says:

        Could you please tell me why you find Bo has been a bit ‘off’? 🙂 It’s just that while I see she’s been a bit different, I took it to be a character development thing: Bo has a lot on her plate right now and so she’s more self-involved than usual. But I find her to still have a big heart and to still be a kind spirit. That hasn’t gone away for me.

        That said, I didn’t feel Bo to be disempowered in the finale either, because for me the finale established her as a leader. And well, leaders can be awesome do-ers, but they’re great at ordering people around or having people do things for them. It was especially obvious regarding Dyson, whom she pretty much told to go kill Taft. The fact that she was the woman with the plan even if it can be argued that Tamsin fought the army (because, well, it is a lot easier for a Valkyrie to take down an army than for a succubus, no?) further proved this to me.

        • Melanie says:

          I’d love to tell you why I find her ‘off,’ if I could quite put my finger on it!

          First, I agree Bo is still generally a champion, and I think she’s actually starting to get over the self-involvement from the first half of the season.

          What I find different is harder to quantify, but even the characters have a sneaking suspicion. When Bo was talking to Lauren at the end of 03.10, she said, “After the dawning, I feel, new.” Kenzi commented on her strange behavior by suggesting ‘This is not the Bo that I recall . . . body swap?’ and Lauren responded that she’s still “our Bo,” just a little changed.

          There seems to be a residual Dawning effect beyond just her ‘knowing better how to manage her powers’ (which went a little wonky this episode – related?), but I’m not entirely sure whether it’s just character development or if they’re going to tie it back in.

      • Kendrick says:

        Thank you for that very excellent clarification. I didn’t think you were saying anything negative about Lost Girl’s portrayal of female sexuality, because I’ve never gotten that kind of vibe from any of your reviews. I just wasn’t sure what you meant to point out. Sorry if it came off as a criticism. I wholly agree that there is a ‘women pleasure’ phobia and a ‘gay phobia’ and I applaud Ryan Gosling for standing up to make such an astute point about the double standard. I’m fairly pleased with the way Lost Girl has handled sexuality in the show, and for the most part (with the exception of the threesome Bo had with Ryan and that other blondie in season two) the sex/love scenes.

        I’m looking forward to your more in depth analysis, which you mentioned you would be doing. Great job on covering the show. 🙂

        • Melanie says:

          No, don’t apologize at all! You just pointed out I wasn’t entirely clear in the recap what my big soapbox was, so I wanted to really lay it out in response, for you and anyone else who may have the same questions.

          And I do intend to address the threesome with Ryan and Blondie. (cryptic sneak peek at the answer: It’s problematic, to be sure, but are all problematic things bad?)

          • Kendrick says:

            “And I do intend to address the threesome with Ryan and Blondie. (cryptic sneak peek at the answer: It’s problematic, to be sure, but are all problematic things bad?)”

            LOL. I guess I am a hypocrite because I did enjoy the eye candy, just not the overall contrivance. Thanks for the cryptic sneak peek, I can’t wait for the rest. 😉

            • Kendrick says:

              I really don’t even know how to word this next question. But since you brought up the issue of “Gay Phobia” and “Women Pleasure Phobia” I want to ask your opinion on something. And, also because you work in the industry. That image of Lauren with the femur shoved in her face. A guy with a ‘bone’ shoving it in Lauren’s face (on her mouth) is highly offensive. I’m wondering if they couldn’t have had him poke her in the shoulder with the bone, and still get that he was threatening and intimidating her? I mean, as a woman and a lesbian this image makes me rather furious. I didn’t even notice the symbolism while watching the scene, but now, after seeing reviews of the episode, that seems to be the image every review uses when re-capping the article. Don’t they have people within the community vett their scenes for them? To make sure that something like this doesn’t get out there? I hate to make a complaint because I feel like it will just be additional backlash on the community. But, um… it just really offends me on many levels. Do you have an opinion?
              I don’t think it was intentional on the part of the show runners. I hope not, because if it was, I feel it was a very poor choice. But, well, I’m still a little shocked.

              • Kendrick says:

                As a p.s. I realize you addressed it in your re-cap, but the first time I read it went right over my head. I guess I didn’t want to really see it. But, I just want to understand if this was a good choice for the producers of this show? With what they have done so well, I think it’s kind of careless. But, then again, I know they have a small budget. Anyway… I guess I can let it go.

              • Melanie says:

                From a production standport, the bone could have been: 1) written in (I consider that most likely), 2) something props had lying around and thought apropos for a killer who wanted to change his physiology, or 3) a director’s choice at the last minute, (though that’s less likely in TV than film). If it was objected to by a producer, the bone couldn’t have been removed without a whole scene re-shoot, as a lot of conversation happens during it, but the actual prodding could have been taken out.

                Due to it being edit-able after the fact and because it’s such a blatant image with such a specific item, I’d have a hard time buying it was an accident. I believe it was highly intentional, and meant to be offensive, *on the part of Isaac.* He’s been harassing Lauren in a way that first appeared benign to the viewers (arriving to congratulate a fellow scientist on an award and take her to dinner), then appeared benign to Lauren but not others (I expounded on why this was above, in reply to Rachel), and then finally once he had her separated from her friends and in a fairly powerless position, he assaulted her.

                This is a textbook case of assault that would typically result in victim-blaming. If this happened ‘in the real world,’ you can hear the pundits and the defense attorney saying ‘Well, she went with him to the castle willingly, she never screaming “NO” when he was waving the bone around earlier, so how can she say he assaulted her?’ Lack of strong physical or verbal rebuttal – heck, even oftentimes use of strong physical or verbal rebuttal – is constructed as consent, and that’s sick but an ever-present reality.

                Thus, Isaac’s actions – emotional manipulation, alienating her friends, threatening her, etc – would not really be considered abuse or assault in our justice and social systems, though they clearly are, and the writers/directors/producers clearly know it. I think the disgusting bone gesture was their way of making it as blatant as possible without an actual assault scene, and I rather think it was the right choice from a production standpoint. It brings the idea across without lessening the ‘ick’ factor, and I think Isaac literally assaulting her would have been much more offensive and audience-manipulating.

                Why have him assault her at all? It’s kind of the ‘kick the puppy’ trope. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KickTheDog) Your meglomaiac needs to do a couple really terrible things – in full view of the audience – for them to accept he’s really a bad guy. The field of dead? The audience didn’t see it happen. Taking marrow from Dyson? Well, that’s bad, but it’s a medical thing and Dyson is a big strong wolf and there’s more of a ‘weird’ factor to it. Assaulting a vulnerable female character is both shorthand for ‘this dude is really pretty heinous’ and more importantly it finishes something I believe the Isaac/Lauren interaction is meant to have mimicked: that of a strong female character being taken advantage of while in no way lessening or blaming her. That last part, the victim-blaming, is as damaging as slut-shaming, and I wholeheartedly agree with any show that can use its platform to condemn these things.

                I did think twice about including it that picture, but I thought it was a powerful image and I agree with what I see it conveying. I see how it can be taken otherwise, and I’m really glad you commented on it, but I don’t believe it’s anti-woman, or anti-LGBT.

                (Incidentally and in case you were wondering, I think the 03.01 _Caged Fae_ incident was both less intentional and not positive, and I plan to talk about that in the review thereof. I see how it happened, and don’t believe it was meant to simulate a trans* person, but that one definitely slipped through the vetting cracks. It’s also something that would have been much harder to ‘fix in post’ if someone did catch it).

                • Kendrick says:

                  Okay, I can accept the decision based on your explanation. I did get what was going on while watching the scene, and found it to be quite a powerful scene. Especially, Lauren’s sort of non-response in a certain way, but also what she was doing with her eyes was incredible. So, yes, I understand why it was done.

                  What does bother me is once that image is separated from the scene, and put out there as a snapshot for the masses to glimpse, with no knowledge of the show or the context of the scene; well, then there are all kinds of problems I have with it. However, I’m aware that most people who watch the show are in love with it (myself included) as well as the fact that most people reading the reviews are also big fans.

                  Thank you again, for giving me really good, thoughtful information. Can’t wait to hear about Caged Fae. Yes, I had a similar reaction to that scene and sort of groaned out loud when it happened. I was pleased with how quickly an apology and explanation was made, and I also did not believe it was intentional, but just sloppy vetting.

                  I’m still of the opinion he could have shoved the bone in her shoulder and it would have worked, probably not as well, but I can accept your explanation as valid reasoning on behalf of the director. Laurens’s character has been through so much, I just felt degraded on her behalf. She did handle herself amazingly well, however, so I’m good with the outcome. Again, thanks so much for the in depth explanation.

                  • Melanie says:

                    I do agree the way it was handled / acted was brilliant.

                    Thanks for giving me a chance to respond about the picture, and expound about what the scene was saying, since I didn’t go much in-depth in the review itself. I really appreciate my comments section being a place for challenging thinking, pointing out even more nuance, and allowing me to really get into depth about production and other things I love – from gender politics to obscure literature references / biblical allusions.

                    • Kendrick says:

                      I just want to be clear. I was not challenging you, or your reasons for including the picture, nor would I expect you to take it down or second guess your decisions. I was particularly upset when I read the SFX review, because the writer didn’t mention Lauren’s role in the episode except to say she did a “double cross” but gave no explanation as to who she double crossed. This same image was the sole picture of Lauren, and the reviewer made some obscure comment about wondering what would happen to her.

                      I’m so grateful that you talked the issue out with me. People (me) tend to make a mountain out of a molehill, especially if they don’t have good information. I came to you for information and you delivered it exceptionally well. Again. Thank you. 🙂

                    • Melanie says:

                      I didn’t take it as a personal challenge, or at most it was a question of my needing to explain further, which I was thrilled to do. Thanks for the comments (and for telling me to not second-guess, which is always nice) and always feel free to question, even if next time it is a challenge of my interpretation!

                    • Rachel says:

                      Hey Melanie. Just wondering — do you see/want the comments section to be conversations between you and readers individually? A space of dialogue also (i.e. others are free to jump in on various threads if they’re moved to contribute)? A hybrid? Or, watch it evolve organically?

  8. Rachel says:

    Other random questions, observations, wonderings, in no particular order…

    I fell in love with a creative, pioneering, risk-taking, wittiness that is essential to LG’s vitality and dna… though kind of hard to put my finger on. It’s off-beat. I kinda want to show my mom a few episodes next time I visit and ask her “why do I love this show?”

    Maybe “I will live the life I choose” applies to the actual show. As does the tension between that and themes from 3×8.

    I LOVE Vex! ❤

    Lauren as the writers' 'whipping boy' — you really think so? What do you mean? Why am I scared you're right? Is this ok?? Why do I soooo not want her stuck in this status (and feel it could ultimately be a real detriment to the show and her character?)?

    Sometimes I feel that deeper themes emerge and then don't get fully explored. Like in the Dawning when Bo says "There's always another way." That is such a neat theme to explore, and I'd like to see it woven in, in various interesting ways throughout episodes and arcs. Also, 3×8 was AMAZING… do we really live the life we choose or are we influenced by others and circumstances and culture and…?

    Anyone else see a parallel between Bo and Tamsin's fight and Bo and Lauchlin's fight? Bo, having the chance to 'win,' chooses not to kill/win. I loved what she said in S2 about not being an executioner.

    Why does Tamsin find Bo to be so different than anyone else she's ever met in all her lifetimes? What does Tamsin see in Bo? And what does Bo see in Tamsin that leads her to say she's the most alive person she's ever met? I'm not quite buying this yet…

    For me, one thing that feels very off, or confusing, about Bo is reflected in her relationships with Lauren and Kenzi. She kept lying to Lauren a lot. At first I thought it was because she really wanted monogamy to work, and she didn't want to hurt Lauren. But I think that's only part of it. With Kenzi… she and Bo don't feel as close this season. I don't trust Bo as much as I did in S1 and S2. She's often been black and white in S1 and 2, but trustworthy in that. This feels different somehow. Thoughts?

    Aife was good this episode! Her line about Bo's dad killing people and resurrecting them to kill them again… wow.

    I liked the finale. And Bruce 🙂


    • Melanie says:

      Writers need a whipping-boy to throw into extreme or unconventional situations when the story needs a boost or the writer is just having a bad week. It can be danger, it can also just be ‘we need to give someone this scenario/backstory to explain this story arc, who will work?’ Bo doesn’t work because she has a fairly set backstory which informs everything about her, and she’s supposed to be super-powerful so her being in danger is usually set up through foolishness (a well one can only dip into so often) or trying to rescue/care for a friend . . . which necessitates a friend being in a perilous situation. Dyson is an archetype, and a powerful one at that, and they can only do so much with him in extreme situations, and have explored some of those avenues (love lost! brother betrayed! really poor hair extensions!) already. Kenzi gets leveraged a lot, because she has audience sympathy/love and because she’s human with a murky past, but the situations often turn humorous (see her latest with Bruce as an example, and the Kitsune banter between herself and herself), and whipping boys who make you laugh only go so far. Lauren is the perfect target because she has a longer, even murkier past than Kenzi, has audience sympathy and now the love of almost all main characters, (if they are concerned, the audience will ‘side’ with them, ie if people like Bo and are on the fence about Lauren, often just the fact Bo is worried will be enough). It’s pragmatic and somewhat dirty to break it down like that, but there it is.

      Being the whipping boy isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Buffy writers would often PWID (Put Willow In Danger) or give her the outlandish plot if they needed a spark, because it was easier than, say, a big bad vampire, and because she had the sympathy of the audience and the majority of the characters. They tried to do it with Dawn, too, but . . . well, that wasn’t quite as successful. It didn’t hurt the character in the long run, but you did have a couple wtf moments. Some bad (Willow, damnit, stop opening the door without looking!) some good (Willow’s a bad bad vampire? Yes, please).

      • Rachel says:

        It’s interesting to hear it broken down that way. And gives a bit more context for why Lauren is often in such tough circumstances and relationships. A lot of fans just seem to want her to have some peace.

        I’d think that if writers play ‘whipping boy’ a lot with a character, at least in the way I’m envisioning it right now, it could either enhance the development of that character’s strength and originality, or it could stunt the character… depending on plot, themes, character traits, writing… Certainly can be true for Lauren.

        • Melanie says:

          (I’m replying to your other comment about comments here, because the blog won’t allow ‘nested’ comments past 10 deep. Blarg.)

          As far as form, I’m fine letting the comments section evolve how it will. People are more than welcome to start their own conversations, and some have started that when they’re interested in the same things. That’s awesome, though I still love to reply myself, and I try to make a point to when anyone asks a direct question about the review. Of course, I’d shut down sexism/racism/shaming/othering/etc towards a commentor or a character, but I don’t feel the need to make it a big deal on the site at this point, because to be honest I’ve rarely seen a more polite, intelligent group of commentors, (and I read a lot of internet).

          As far as what I l really enjoy about how the comment sections are unfolding so far, it’s nice to get some corrections – like the fact I missed the hair numerology and mispoke about Bruce – to help make me a better viewer/reviewer. I *most* like the opportunity to expound on things I may have glazed over in the review, as I’ve gotten a chance to several times already on this episode. Sometimes things don’t fit in the space and flow of the review, sometimes I don’t have the time to process and articulate what I’m thinking in excruciating detail before the review goes up. When I respond to questions, I try and respond broadly and in-depth, because I figure other readers may have similar questions and check the comments for answers – at least, that’s how I read blogs.

          • Rachel says:

            Great. I ask because once I post a comment, I get emails whenever anyone posts a new comment (whether or not it’s a reply to what I wrote). It’s neat to read everything. There have been a few times I’ve wanted to jump in and respond to conversations I didn’t initiate… but don’t wanted to intrude. So my question was an attempt at navigating internet etiquette 🙂

            The respectfulness and intelligence of this space is awesome. It creates space to thoughtfully interact with TV… specifically Lost Girl. Internet spaces aren’t always like that, so kuddos.

      • Izabell says:

        I just learned about your blog and it’s great! Can’t wait (like everyone else) for more reviews and thoughts. I agree with pretty much everything you are saying. In conjunction with the whipping boy concept, what do you make of Lauren’s status (obvious to many and lost on some) as the ‘unsung hero’ of the show? (Also, I apologize if I am not following the thread flow correctly.)

        • Melanie says:

          No worries. The thread flow kind of evolves on its own. Thanks for joining the conversation!

          I think the use of one of the physically ‘weaker’ characters (not because she’s a woman, since we have plenty of other women literally kicking ass) as one of the heros is a great reversal. Not to downplay Dyson’s abilities as a fighter to help Bo in her journey, or the need for sword fighting, etc. But the writers go out of their way to point out heroism comes in multiple different forms, and everyone from Kenzi to Trick has a moment to do so. Lauren’s, though, goes often untrumpeted because of the forms is comes in, which is certainly realistic. They subtly nod to it, along the way, but it’s never going to be a big gesture that gets her Fae-wide respect, because that’s not the way it works. If she can do those actions and get respect from significant characters / the audience, I think that’s a really positive thing. And though the show doesn’t over-explain, so some things on the parts of all characters are going to be missed at times, I think overall, she does get the respect from the audience, and certainly she’s earned it from Dyson and Kenzi.

          (Laughlin, too, which is interestingly part of why he treated her like he did. I can’t wait to dig into his Machiavellian tendencies.)

  9. Rachel says:

    Sorry if I’m posting lots… feel free to tell me if it’s too much or annoying.

    Forgot to say… in Season 1 & 2 I fell in love with how LG began breaking down binaries (a bisexual succubus, sexual orientation isn’t much of an issue, the binary between dark and light fae, the dark can be good and the light can be manipulative and controlling). It reflects that hip, off-beat, pioneering, creative, intelligent vibe.

    In this season the dark/light binary seems to break down at a much deeper level with the introduction of Tamsin. And, perhaps, with Hale as Ash. And, with Vex. And with the fae/human prejudice.

    • Izabell says:

      Tamsin’s “doubt,” – her moral dilemmas – as a dark fae, is a wonderful thematic addition.

      • Rachel says:

        Yep. I really like how LG bases so much in authentic mythology (from what I understand). Doubt is a fascinating (faescenating? haha… drum roll) power, and complex. I don’t know if doubt can be neatly packaged up into traditional notions of ‘dark’ or ‘light.’ What an interesting power to explore.

  10. Andrew says:

    Came across this review after watching this episode, seems like the writers dropped the ball on the Cabbit. It’s a (though minor) plot point, and they say NOTHING about them! Don’t get me wrong, I’ve always liked sci-fi, fantasy and myth, so usually when Lost Girl throws out a word like that I have an idea what it is, but “Cabbit” is new to me, and I wanted to know what it meant in regards to abilities and such. So, I come online, and a quick Wikipedia article later and I am enlightened, LOL! Funny how knowing what the real life myth means instantly let me know what to expect of the Fae equivalent, and answer all the questions I had. 🙂

    But a search of “Lost Girl Cabbit” also popped this up, and I found it a delightful read. What’s funny is that while reading I was looking forward to your thoughts on who comprised Tamsin’s Bo-Bomb, and unfortunately found you only mention the last part, the Sealed With A Kiss part, the only one that we know exactly who it is, Kenzi. You mention a prediction that the bomb’s failure will indicate something about Kenzi, but this thought misses the other 3 components. I actually immediately assumed that Kenzi’s part was above reproach and it was the other parts. Even Tamsin only mentions “Love and trust” as being the culprits, with no mention of “the one who would never betray you”.

    So here’s my 2 cents: Tamsin recited the recipe as “One hair from someone you trust, two from someone you love, and three from your own head. Woven together by the kiss of someone who’d never betray you.”. Obviously she knows whether or not the 3 hairs are right, so that leaves trust and love. I’m thinking “love” was “Lauren”, and this failure reveals that she loves Dyson, not Lauren. Hmmm… I find it significant that the number of hairs is different, so if they got one from Dyson instead of two, then no dice. Etcetera. I feel like I remember some throw-away hair collection moment, but before the Kenzi Kiss Seal, so I didn’t particularly notice (I wish we would have heard this recipe earlier, to be on the lookout). Or maybe I’m just remembering Bo snooping in Tamsin’s truck.

    I’m liking that Hale will no longer be Ash, as he’s been unpleasant since, especially in regards to Kensi. And fairly absent. Though it seems like he’d be a good Ash, and last season’s Ash irritated me, even after we discovered his secret agenda. I kinda wish they’d bring back the original. I always got a kick out of his ultra-deep voice, and last I remember he was listed in critical condition, they never said he died.

    I love the return of Vex, with his powers, though I’m annoyed that they didn’t take a moment to explain what he did and how he got his powers back (and where they went in the first place). To me it seems like they’re calling an extension, giving themselves until next season to come up with and/or decide on an explanation, LOL!

    Oh, and loving Bruce, but my takeaway was different than yours… I didn’t read that he was under Hale’s employ at all. After all he only knew about Kensi’s protection because he “read it” on her, as in detected it. If he was working for Hale, you’d think Hale would mention it. Hale saying he had a man on the inside was clearly Vex, as he said it as a solution for what he’d do about The Morrigan, and this leads to a phone call out from Hale, Vex being on the phone, and Vex playing with The Morrigan. My understanding is that Kensi seduced Bruce. Maybe not “seduced”, more like “befriended”, or “won him over”, but stronger. Perhaps bonding over the moment Kensi is bandaging his arm. And poor guy, that he states he loves her, and she just says she’s talking to the car, and doesn’t deal with his declaration of love at all, LOL! Looking up the actor, I see he’s been in 3 other episodes (including the first, though not as Bruce), twice as Bruce, so perhaps Kensi made friends with him earlier? That idea feels familiar, I feel like I remember her making friends with a big bad guy. This would explain why he didn’t report to The Morrigan about reading Kensi’s protection. I recently saw Get Smart for the first time, where exactly that happens, so I might be mix-remembering. 🙂

    To me, it seems clear The Wanderer is Bo’s dad, though right now I can’t come up with reasons for saying so, except that all the Wanderer references (the fortune telling cards during Bo’s pre-Dawning adventure wih Tamsin and the weird merry-go-round tune in the suburban babysitter episode, which it annoyed me that they made no reference to whatsoever… That’s all I can think of off the top of my head from previous episodes) seem to be targetting Bo.

    Finally, I want to point out that I haven’t missed an episode, but somehow I missed Lauren and Bo breaking up. What happened? It seemed like suddenly they were referring to themselves as broken up a couple of episodes ago (I feel like the suburban babysitter episode was when I first heard this). Wu-huh?

    • Melanie says:

      Yay, search engines! For helping us discover what all the mythological references, and for bringing you to my comments section.

      I definitely agree about the cabbit thing. Maybe because we didn’t have the traditional structure of Trick explaining the species characteristics, maybe the writers thought it was enough of a portmanteau we’d figure it out, maybe they had to cut the explanitory scene for time, I dunno. But I hope I’d’ve caught on to specifically what Lauren was doing with the marrow a little quicker had I known cat/rabbit . . . werewolf . .. *light goes on.*

      My postulation about Bruce was based 1) an instinctive feeling he was a double agent while holding Kenzi aloft and 2) a hasty interpretation of Hale’s ‘I got a guy on the inside’ right after he said ‘I gotta go see about a girl.’ When I was recapping based on my notes I missed fixing it for Vex, who is obviously who Hale meant, as that’s who he calls next. Your interpretation is absolutely correct. Though if Bruce switched allegiances and risked death after only a couple minutes in Kenzi’s presence, maybe some of Bo’s mojo is rubbing off on her! Story has trumped character development this episode though, and he’s adorable, so I’ll let it slide.

      I also missed entirely that Tamsin named a different hair combination than Acacia, and since I’d talked about the hairs in previous recaps, I didn’t think I had much to add. But that’s why I have such awesome readers! _meganjademcgarry_, above, also pointed out the hair differential, and then we kind of spun out of control postulating about it. Hashtag conspiracytheoriesarefun.

      Lauren and Bo went ‘on a break’ at the end of 03.10, Delinquents, and everyone kept saying ‘broken up’ except Bo, who finally last episode admitted it felt pretty much like a breakup.

      • Andrew says:

        Hey, thanks for the tip! Looking into it, apparently I somehow missed Deliquents. I mean, I saw the first 8 or 9 minutes, but I guess I never saw the rest. I think I was watching it, but I decided to watch my recording of it later, then I was interrupted again, and somewhere along the way since the beginning looked familiar I thought I had seen the whole thing. 🙂 Just watched it now. Turns out this means I missed:

        – The introduction of the Bo-Bomb (which Acacia seems to call Rune Glast – and the T is not a typo)
        – Tamsin collecting all the hairs for the Bo-Bomb (can you tell I LOVE the name I came up with? LOL!)
        – Lauren reaching her breaking point in regards to the Fae
        – Tamsin resisting her mission on Bo, explaining her becoming constantly drunk in the following episodes (I was mildly wondering about that)
        – The Lauren-Bo break

        Kinda hating Lauren about this, since Bo desperately made sure to check “But we’re not BROKEN up, right?”, and in the very next scene Lauren is talking about being broken up, having to get over Bo, etc. Way to mislead. 😦 This seems like a callback to Friends, and their running gag of “We were on a BREAK!”, and their debate of “break” vs. “breakup”.

        As for the Bo-Bomb, Acacia says this: “One hair from someone she loves, two from someone she trusts, and three from her own head. Put ’em in the bottle, and the druid will do the rest.” So yeah, you’re right, Tamsin mixed up the recipe, at least vocally. I wasn’t pointing out the error, I just had never heard the original version, LOL! Makes me wonder if this was a writer gaff, an actress error or on purpose. In the episode she gets an unknown number from Dyson’s comb, but seems to get one from Lauren’s face, calling it an “eyelash”, presumably a loose hair she lucked into. And of course the bunch she yanked from Bo’s head (after which she was stupid enough to arouse suspicion by not staying for drinks). Assuming the accurate version is Acacia’s, that means she picked Lauren as the love and Dyson as the trust. Dunno who Trust should be if not Dyson or Kenzi (since Kenzi is Never Betray, and it looks like Dyson is Love), though. Wait, Trick. 🙂 Could also be she really did get an eyelash from Lauren, but it needs to be an actual hair (or it was a false eyelash). Wow, the writers have some routes available, LOL! Wonder if next season they’ll actually “look” into why the bomb failed… And this explains why I was disappointed about seeing who you think comprised the bomb, you already knew since you didn’t miss it, LOL!

        I missed the conspiracy conversation. I’m a freak, I type LOADS (as you can see), I have a lot to say, but tend to skip long text from others, LOL! I haven’t read any of the other repies. 🙂 Guess I’d be better informed if I had.

        Oh, and I also missed that Linda Hamilton, of Terminator fame as Sarah Conner, is Acacia… Found that out when I wanted the spelling of Acacia from IMDb, LOL! Did NOT recognize her.

        As for Bruce, I think I want to check his previous episodes to see if he and Kenzi had interaction previously… Because you’re right, it’s really fast to connect so hard if it’s just this episode. Also Bruce’s failure to tell the Morrigan that Kenzi has protection suggests that he was already on Kenzi’s side from the beginning. What’s funny is that Showcase usually shows the Lost Girl episode the NEXT Sunday (Monday?) morning at like 5 or 6am, so if I miss it I can catch it a week later, but this week, when it SHOULD have been this final episode of the season, it was an older one, but it just so happens to be another Bruce episode (the one with Kenzi and her thumping stick, LOVED that! Wish it was less inconvenient for her to keep it), and Kenzi didn’t have any interaction with Bruce, other than helping Bo beat him up at the beginning. One episode down, one to go. 🙂

        • Melanie says:

          It’s funny you mention Bruce . . . He and Kenzi did interact previously this season (as someone in these comments pointed out to me), but he also made an appearance of sorts in 01.01. That review comes out tomorrow, and I give a little pictorial guide of fun parallels to his appearance there and in 03.03. I wouldn’t have caught it had he not been here in these last couple episodes.

  11. Hi, Melanie. I’ve continued to consider the episode, letting it sit and seep in. And, I’d like to add that your readings of the “juice me” and Taft’s lording over Dyson bound to the bed scenes are especially good. I guess that kind of context is a lot harder for me to see on initial viewings. And, I really haven’t seen it expressed as well as you do, or at all really. Well done.

    And, I would like to add to the Bruce thread here that I think he is so decent to Kenzi because he’s been so mistreated by the Morrigan in this episode as well as 3.03. That is also the episode Kenzi slides between his legs and punches him in the nuts. So, I guess you could call that a meeting. 🙂 So, I really think he likes Kenzi because Kenzi is cool, even in the face of serious trouble. She’s brave and good and snarky and loyal and everything good, yeah. And, she’s nice to him. In contrast to the abuse of the Morrigan, Kenzi’s a nice alternative. HIs position may also hint at the larger fae community not being totally on-board with the recent fae declaration. Maybe. It might be a stretch though.

    Thanks, again. Good reviews and good conversations.

  12. Sandra Grant says:

    i will say i know alot of people may have not liked the cliff hangers but i loved them, my only gripe is that Taft had the worst guards in the world the part where Bo and Tamsin first get out the cage. Why stand there and watch and let the 2 woman take out half the guards while they have there backs to u? U just saw half ur force taken out start shooting dont stand there wait for them to turn around to take u out. What sense does that make.

    • Melanie says:

      I, too, liked the cliffhangers, especially since we know the ‘how’ (the Wanderer) if not the why. Having Tamsin and Dyson drive off a cliff for no reason, or having Bo disappear without the calling card being left, would have been frustrating. Instead, it was beautifully done.

      I think the idea was that Tamsin cast doubt on the whole room, but the guards were only *completely* overwhelmed when she turned her face on them. Still, Taft’s guards lose major points of pulling the two powerful Fae out of their cage in the first place! I suppose sometimes you need the ‘stormtroopers’ to be incompetent to make the storytelling go smoother.

      • Sandra Grant says:

        Yea I liked that we werent left in the dark with a why, its more what’s gonna happen next. and yeah I thought about that to they were fighting each other anyway let them kill each other for all u cared. but yeah i do believe for the sake of storytelling the guards had to be slow on the uptake. lol

      • Rachel says:

        I know valkyries make people doubt, but is that what’s happening when she wipes out a room full of people? I’m imagining doubt as bunches of soldiers dropping their guns/swords and scratching their heads in confusion.

        • Melanie says:

          Granted, Bo knocked Dyson out the first time Tamsin used her power, but then he wanted to go ‘sleep it off’ so perhaps that’s an aftereffect, or full effect if she really turns it up to 11.

  13. Dina says:

    You fail to adress the serious writing mistakes and the lack of order on the last 2 episodes. Especially when Bo appears to not care for Lauren or where she is. Also where or when exactly Lauren is loved by all characters? As you said in one of your answers, in fact the whole never explain anything when it comes to Lauren is making the general audience hate on her, and painting as the bad guy, unless Dyson tells Lauren saved him, she is the bad guy. Imo the writers are losing their story from their own hands with seriously hurting the plot line. I would wait for how season 4 starts, but the way they waisted so much time on Tamsin and the way Lauren was sidelined, they seriously lost a big chance to make their story epic. You say that Bos only orgasm was with Tamsin, maybe pointing out to that Bos line about how amazing her chi is? Sexualising their relationship is going to make many fans stop watching the show, and many of them already stopped after episode 8.
    Making Lauren the whipping boy of whole seasons is becoming tiring, especially at the expense of her character and shows the writers are out of ideas.

    • Melanie says:

      I wish I knew how much the episode number was hurting the pacing. To go from 13 to 22 to 13 is a big swing, and there were several major arcs this season, in addition to the monster-of-the-week format. Having to stretch arcs into 22 episodes last-minute was hard, perhaps this was making up for it, or contingency planning?

      The writers may simply trust the viewers to recognize Lauren’s actions are good, or perhaps they’re stretching the resolution a bit for drama, or maybe they wanted to work the angle that Bo loves Lauren whether or not she hears Dyson’s affirmation, I don’t know. I did enjoy Lauren’s arc, though that’s somewhat a matter of taste and opinion, and I don’t think it sullies her as a character at all. At least in the last couple episodes, too much of her would make the ‘twist’ about her double-cross of Isaac too obvious. I think she’ll play a big role in S4, and I also hope she’s able to have a slightly more stable arc. Her cries about being so tired and having been put through so much by the Fae are certainly valid. Also, *pounds fists* moar backstory!

      You know, something just occurred to me while formulating my response to you. Not just Lauren, but Kenzi has been out of Bo’s picture recently. So has Trick, which I think is more a sign of Bo’s growth and needing less paternal guidance, and possibly also because we already had more than enough mysterious looks going around. And Hale, because, well, search me! But, my point.

      I wonder if part of the Dawning process was supposed to try and disconnect Bo from humans. We’ve already seen Fae don’t value them, but treat them as underlings or less evolved types. Yet, Fae children often go to school with and grow up with humans. So, at what point do they start hanging with almost exclusively their own kind? Perhaps after their puberty-esque rite-of-passage? Whether because then they start feeling more like a member of an elite group, or there’s something more intentional with Fae powers trying to separate the two classes, a “be among them but not of them” sort of thing.

      Either way, Bo needs to realize she’s been sidelining humans – including not really working any cases for them this season – and understand how that’s untrue both to her character and to her position as ‘Unaligned Succubus, Champion of Humanity.’ Perhaps Lauren is able to start breaking away from the Fae with her resources left in Isaac’s castle, as well, and bring us back a little into the human world.

      I never said Bo’s only orgasm was with Tamsin, but that the only explicit on-screen woman/woman orgasm was metaphorical. I didn’t mean to suggest her connection with Tamsin was more sexual or better than that with Lauren, with whom she’s had plenty of orgasms – which Lauren scientifically and hilariously confirms in 03.05 with mention of her ‘tired pubococcygeus.’ There’s a lot of ‘immediately after’ and plenty of suggestion on screen, but it struck me as interesting. I wondered whether it’s because of network ‘standards’ is all. It was pointed out to me I wasn’t clear enough about this in the review itself, so I expounded more (you can read it here, starting with the question)

      All that said, you make a great point about Tamsin’s chi, and since Bo was unable to breathe her chi into Tamsin, there’s definitely something going on there.

      • Izabell says:

        The Dawning has been talked about as another milestone for Bo on her way to the dark side… She is changing into someone we don’t like as much, and the way this becomes clear is especially in relation to the 2 humans in her life.

        On another note, I thought, with regard to Lauren and everything to do with Taft, that Lauren’s actions were all incredibly brave, noble, upholding of the hippocratic oath, and totally in character. Lauren may have convinced herself that, despite some red flags, she was going to go with Taft to do her brilliant research and help humans, this time. She wanted to make a clean break and move on from Bo and the fae (even though it killed her inside). Once she realizes what is actually going on in Taft’s compound/castle, she immediately resolves to put an end to it. The lead up to the femur in face scene is Lauren telling Taft to release all the fae “immediately.” Then Taft grabs her and manhandles into a chair, and proceeds to tell her his story. And then with the bone. At that moment Lauren is terrified, of course. But she still manages to be sarcastic with him, showing him what he truly is. And all the while her brilliant mind is coming up with a plan to save everyone, even as Taft rants away at her. It all makes perfect sense to me. How can anyone not see that? Ok, clearly, I have a soft spot for Lauren, but still.

      • Thomas Jacks says:

        Bo should’ve known Lauren saved Dyson’s life when she ordered him to kill Taft because he growled when he ran off. But clearly she didn’t in her rantings to Kenzi about it. Bo had no faith in Lauren. Something you need to “love” some.

    • breakzz121gmailcom says:

      Lauren wasn’t loved by anyone. I’m sure Bo cared to an extent, but to tell Tamsin they need to get the gang back together, and not a single mention, or thought of Lauren was ridiculous.

      We all saw, or those of us that paid attention to everything, how Lauren was hidden from Bo by Dyson and Kenzi. Note Kenzi’s reactions when they were at Lauren’s and Bo was whining about not knowing where she was and when Dyson said he lost her. Kenzi did not look shocked. So what love and family did Lauren really have? None.

      If it wasn’t for Lauren none of them would’ve walked out of Taft’s. Even the mighty brunette that forgot she’s a Succubus. Only Aife remembered her Succubus.

      It was tiring seeing Lauren getting the poop end of the stick while new and old lovers took presidence over Lauren’s safety.

    • shaunhaynes22 says:

      Bo didn’t know what was in that rune glass but still trusted Tamsin as one of the “crew “, over the safety of Lauren. They ruined her relationship with Lauren so severely with that “I don’t know where they took her”, line.

      What “they? She’d already ordered Dyson to kill Taft. Surely she didn’t mean humans as “They”.

  14. You have an interesting analysis of Bo juicing Tamsin as being a metaphorical sex scene, which I totally agree with. However, since Bo piggybacks the juicing without telling Tamsin she is going to do so, now that scene almost seems like an assault to me. I’m not sure how I feel about Bo’s actions in that context, though I understand why she did it strategically (not only did she want some strength for battle, but she had good evidence that Tamsin was working against and might turn on her, so she didn’t want her too powerful).

    • Melanie says:

      If we’re talking metaphorically, then Tamsin’s ‘juice me’ is not just consenting but enthusiastic. But within just the literal scene, you do point out an interesting problem.

      First a slight disclaimer: It’s brain-bending (and plot-stymy-ing, from a writer’s standpoint) to read all metaphorical problems as 1-to-1 analogies. For example, though the Squonk girl was supposed to represent child trafficking, nothing in the filming thereof actually exposed the girl or the character to actual sexual assault or a simulation thereof, and the writer doesn’t have to make the machine the Squonk was trapped in directly equate to something used in child trafficking. You can play fast-and-loose a little. My explanation of how that fast-and-loose playing works shouldn’t be construed as condemning or defending it.

      Bo has chi-sucked / sexed people without their consent before; human as well as Fae. There’s also plenty of coercion in her relationship with Dyson, mostly on her part near the beginning, as in 01.08. One could argue that if she uses her ‘power’ to get someone to nod their head, is this the same as intoxication? As a succubus, Bo’s most powerful weapon is sex. So if we’re looking at it as love-war, is all fair? It’s assault, but it’s often her way of staying alive; so would it be more or less problematic for her to stab someone, drink blood, siren them, get them to sign a contract, etc etc? Yes, it gets complicated, but the problematic sexual conquests are the closest we get to the original mythology of a succubus; that of sexing often sleeping, non-consenting people.

      I mention in my review of 01.01 that Bo’s use of touch to get people into sex and Hale’s siren song (“I’ve sung my way into a lot of women’s pants”) walks and sometimes crosses the line. This ties in to Lost Girl’s whole world; the Light and Dark Fae all have an ‘edge’ to them. Use of their powers is often in realms where we’re uncomfortable; eating human flesh, convincing people to commit suicide, etc., and yet these are all things mythology has gleefully used as plot devices for years. Not that I’m saying a supernatural basis for a show excuses or allows it to depict rape, murder, or canabalism as good things, but it definitely opens the avenue for exploration and presentation without outright condemnation.

      As an aside which may make this whole thing even MORE problematic: I think Aife’s attack on Dyson should/could certainly be considered rape from a viewer standpoint, but I understand why the characters don’t call it such, because the *Fae* don’t necessarily see it that way. (As an added bonus, it saves the writers from a lot of verbal fencing and dancing. The processing of that scene alone would take an episode, and if you open the door a crack, you’ve got to fully address it.)

      Lost Girl as a show may frown upon plenty of things – to pick a less extreme example than Aife’s attack on Dyson, there’s the body jumper in 01.05: Dyson chastises him, everyone seems to agree he is uncouth and even violating the bodies – but that’s not going to stop the Fae from acting within their nature / mythological boundaries, it’s not necessarily going to be punished, because that’s how the Fae world works. That is the loophole one creates when one creates a fictional world in which characters are often dark, often based on gruesome and graphic mythology, and often performing metaphorical acts.

      • Rachel says:

        Through these fae characters, monster’s of the week, and all of these odd, interesting, complex powers, LG is exploring our rich, mythological human lore (odd that fae are a different species from us, since they come from our past). It’s got to be a challenge to explore these things in ways that do them justice. It can leave my head spinning. Unless that’s actually Tamsin channeling her power through tv waves.

  15. Jen Na says:

    Episode 3×13 was quite “out of tune”. How could it be just a few days after Bo broke up with Lauren and was worried so much about her, she only said “I don’t know where they took her” when Tamsin asked about Lauren? It’s like she didn’t want to put any effort in finding her. It didn’t make any sense at all as she still said she loved Lauren just not long ago. Also, the “didn’t care” attitude against the very basic of Bo’s character of which she would never leave the people she cared about just like that.

    I don’t know what to think about Bo anymore since episode 3×13. I could only shake my head, couldn’t believe what I saw. Bo’s answer to Tamsin made her really looked like just a dumb succubus. She knew Lauren not yesterday. They knew and had fight together against the wrong since episode 1. Lauren was the one taught Bo how to control her succubus power without killing and had been helping her along the way. Even at the very last minute, Bo still said convincingly that she knew Lauren for whatever Lauren’s real name was. After all they had been through over the many years, how could Bo just believe what she saw without any willingness to actually find out why Lauren changed that much only in the length of days? Also, it was very obvious that Lauren was trying to save her. Bo’s answer to Tamsim about Lauren looked quite stupid (sorry have to use the word “stupid” as couldn’t find a better way to describe it). That’s why, in my opinion, episode 3×13 was “out of tune” in the storyline and characters.

    In episode 1 and 2, the audience was introduced with the personality of each of the characters. Their personalities had evolved as the series went. However, though it’d evolved, the very basic values/personalities hold by each of the character remained. In a few last episodes of season 3, especially 3×13, it seemed like the writers were losing the grasp of their understanding of the characters.

    • Melanie says:

      I agree. While I understand the writers had to get Bo back to the Dal quickly – because that was where they could stage the explosion, and it was a logical meet-up place – they glazed over Bo’s concern for Lauren’s whereabouts to make that happen. I’m not sure whether I’m just being too optimistic, or whether Bo’s intent was really to get everyone together and then go hunting for Lauren and Kenzi in a group, but that’s how I’m choosing to read it, until proven otherwise. Because if that’s not it, than her nonchalance is staggering and very un-Bo. And I have to believe Bo understands Lauren is the hero here. She can’t not see that. Right? *shakes head*

      I do have a really far-out theory I developed in comments above: “I wonder if part of the Dawning process was supposed to try and disconnect Bo from humans. We’ve already seen Fae don’t value them, but treat them as underlings or less evolved types. Yet, Fae children often go to school with and grow up with humans. So, at what point do they start hanging with almost exclusively their own kind? Perhaps after their puberty-esque rite-of-passage? Whether because then they start feeling more like a member of an elite group, or there’s something more intentional with Fae powers trying to separate the two classes, a “be among them but not of them” sort of thing.”

      If they’re going to bring up the Dawning again (and it was a good concept, I liked the character doubling, but it was really underwhelming as The Dawning, it could have easily been a hallucinogenic or dream ep, so I think they do plan to bring it back around), this seems like it would fit, how Bo’s character has changed so much since. She still cares deeply for Lauren and Kenzi, but they’ve definitely been low on her radar. And while we know it’s in her nature not to always be sensitive to people’s feelings (Kenzi points this out in 01.07), the past few episodes have felt really off.

      But it’s hard to tell if that’s intentional, or pacing. 03.12 and 03.13 were so crammed full of stuff, and all the characters did feel like they were having to accomodate story – from Hale (though I think the power-corrupting story, and him realizing he was turning into the ideals of his father which he fought for so long, was a really great idea, it just din’t have time to gestate) to Lauren and Dyson’s long-burgeoning friendship suddenly freezing over, to the Bo thing . . . I suppose time will tell, but it’s a loooooong wait.

      • Rachel says:

        I don’t know. This is an example of me really not knowing what’s going on… with Bo, with the Dawning, with who Bo is as a character.

        I’ve wondered is if Bo is scared of loving Lauren or being hurt by her. Their conversation in 3×13 may have scared Bo and her response to that fear was to seem unconcerned about Lauren when Tamsin asked about saving her. I mean, Tamsin asked about saving Lauren — it seemed like Tamsin had more concern and thought of Lauren than Bo did in that moment. Why? Is it intentional? Are we being shown something about Bo’s character through her response to Lauren? And, just out of curiosity Melanie, why do you think Bo must know that Lauren is the hero?

        Bo has had very strong reactions like this to Lauren before — season 1 after the ‘spy-banging’ she wouldn’t speak to Lauren for episodes. It’s a very different reaction than she’s had to Dyson. I just don’t quite understand why, beyond that they’re different relationships. Does Bo lie and act dismissively when she’s loves someone in ways she can’t quite understand, or when she doesn’t feel in control intellectually?

        When Lauren broke up with her because she felt she’d be asking more of Bo than Bo could give her, I think she recognized that the level of honesty and openness she wants, Bo can’t consistently give right now, if ever.

        Bo’s past — growing up as an unknown succubus in a fundamentalist Christian home, running for most of her life, thinking she’s a murderer, lying incredibly easily, waking up next to dead lovers — realistically would have helped shape this.

        • Melanie says:

          It’s more of a gut feeling – after all these years building trust with Dyson, Kenzi, and Lauren, I can’t buy Bo really believes Lauren is the bad guy. Though she finally has grasped what Lauren’s psyche has been through, after Lauren’s still-entirely-honest exposition about powerlessness etc., she hopes/believes/understands Lauren’s character is not to turn on her friends (Dyson included) and thus trusts somehow Lauren has played a part.

          I concur with Bo’s reactions to Lauren and Dyson being different. Believing Lauren spy-banged her is different than believing Dyson kept something from her. It was (‘would have been’ is a better term, since eventually Bo determined it wasn’t a true spybang) a much more active, harm-causing event, rather than Dyson being bound by Trick to hold back knowledge to avoid hurting Bo. Was holding back knowledge the right choice? Absolutely not, and it denied some of Bo’s power to make her own, informed choices. But Bo had to split her anger at two people over that one, and it’s natural to feel more betrayed at an act of deliberate sabotage than a group of people having withheld information; information they weren’t entirely sure of at the beginning.

          Bo’s got baggage. A whole train car of it. She’s found people to help her with it, if she’ll just be a leeeettle less stubborn and a tad more open.

          • Rachel says:

            She might have also figured out Lauren hadn’t ‘turned’ bad when Taft was acting all weird (i.e. cabbit-y). Though I ‘gut’ wonder if… more than fearing Lauren turned on them… she was upset or shocked by Lauren’s exposition about powerlessness and use of ‘loved’ in the past tense and anger about her feelings for Dyson. She said to Tamsin ‘you’re all I have left’ or something like that right afterwards, which makes me think Bo thinks Lauren ‘left’ her. Don’t know though…

            Bo’s history and how it impacts her relationships now makes her really interesting, and non stereotypical. I hope she opens up a bit more about it in season 4. Never thought of it that way before, but I think you’re right… she’s open and vulnerable to a degree, and there are many ways (often unconscious?) she is not very open at all.

            How very human of her 🙂

  16. Izabell says:

    Melanie, I wanted to quote you for reference, because I think this is super relevant. You write: “Bo has chi-sucked / sexed people without their consent before; human as well as Fae. One could argue that if she uses her ‘power’ to get someone to nod their head, is this the same as intoxication? As a succubus, Bo’s most powerful weapon is sex. So if we’re looking at it as love-war, is all fair? It’s assault, but it’s often her way of staying alive; so would it be more or less problematic for her to stab Yes, it gets complicated, but the problematic sexual conquests are the closest we get to the original mythology of a succubus; that of sexing often sleeping, non-consenting people.”

    Yes, to all of this! And that’s exactly where I thought “The Wanderer” fits in. What is that song about, ultimately? The Don Juan figure who is a destructive personage, and whose thirst for power is specifically expressed in a limitless desire for sexual conquests. Is that the “dark” side of the Succubus? The power trip? I have no idea where the writers are going with this, but I thought it was very clever.

    • Melanie says:

      The song choice seemed cheesy/obvious at first, but clever the more one thinks about it; which is really great, since most repeated musical pieces go the other direction. Also, they were able to play with the music for the carousel, to great effect.

      (Also, since I left one of my sentences dangling in midair, and didn’t notice til your quote, I went back and fixed it!)

  17. Christine says:

    Is it just me or did they mix up the order of the hairs needed for the potion? Before, I’m pretty sure it was “one hair from someone you love, two from someone you trust” but in this last episode, Tamsin says “one from someone you TRUST, two from someone you LOVE”. I noticed that Tamsin had taken a single hair from Lauren and two from Dyson’s comb in the previous episodes, so what the number of hairs means makes a HUGE difference.

    • Melanie says:

      No, I missed it when I watched the first time (thus my assumption it was Kenzi’s kiss which threw it), but you’re right, it was definitely incorrect. Reader meganjademcgarry also pointed this out to me, and then we had some fun speculating about how or why this may have happened – http://bit.ly/1a65Wvr . It could definitely make a huge difference . . . or maybe it will never be mentioned again! I certainly hope the former.

      • Christine says:

        Oh wow, I missed that whole conversation! There certainly is a lot to speculate about…guess we’ll have to wait for season four to see if anything will come of it (though personally I’m just hoping that it’s not about Dyson being Bo’s “true love”). And man would that be awesome if you joined the set of Lost Girl! If you do find out about the potion, please tell us! 😀

  18. takeela74 says:

    I really really wanted to see them do something with Lauren and Aife. They both wanted to escape from the compound and could have ran off together. Sounds corny but I think Aife would have grown to care about Lauren and her well-being. Not to mention it would have been hilarious for Bo to find them and imagining the worst happening between them in her mind. lol

  19. Shaun Haynes says:

    So Lauren sets up Taft making him an easy mark for Dyson to kill. . Tasmin casts doubt on the guards making them useless. Two succubus’ and the writer’s only used Aife’s powers to heal herself. Bo?? Sighs.

  20. breakzz121gmailcom says:

    Bo was never the hero in five finales.

    1: Trick’s blood/Koushang to stave off Aife.
    2. Lauren’s serum: Kenzi unbound them: Bo passed out.
    3. Lauren turning Taft into a Cabbit: Tamsin casting doubt. Bo? Anna got to stand around like an extra.
    4. Kenzi. I don’t count Massimo because that scene was ridiculously too long.
    5. Z’s horseshoe. Bo? The writers never took the diaper off of the Lost Girl so she was new to and ridiculously afraid of her own powers.

  21. breakzz121gmailcom says:

    Bo was a piss-poor friend or the writer got lost in the plot. Tamsin asks about Lauren and Bo said “I don’t know where they took her.”

    First of all that was one of her humans and allegedly, the woman she loves. Go look for her!!

    Secondly, “What they?? She’d already ordered Dyson to kill Taft. There was no longer a threat to Lauren’s life.

    Bo wanted the gang back together and as always, that never included Lauren.

    Anna Silk is brilliant but she played a very naive character.

    • Melanie says:

      I’m fine with Bo being a terrible friend at times; lots of characters are badly flawed, just like all humans, and it makes the heroes of shows from Breaking Bad to The Good Place more interesting. Bo in particular would have reason to be stunted in her growth as a person / in her ability to interact with others in a meaningful way; she’d spent a lot of time avoiding close contact with others, and that’s going to stunt your growth.

      The problem clicks in when nobody calls her out on it, she doesn’t show understanding of why it was a shit thing to do (after which usually a character shows then either growth from doing it, or taking a step further down a path of ‘general dickishness’).

      • breakzz121gmailcom says:

        She wouldn’t have left Kenzi behind like that. Probably because like you said, they wouldn’t call her on it. Lauren and Dyson should’ve both called Bo on her selfishness. She used Dyson sexually until Rainer appeared and then needed him again in season 5.

        I’m all for growth. Bo regressed in every episode, until the last one.

        • breakzz121gmailcom says:

          And who’d leave their healing power, mother succubus behind to “die? Yikes.

        • Melanie says:

          Definitely agree re: Kenzi. Their relationship was always the most consistent and strong even when acted upon by the supernatural but alas, not the whims of the pen. (Or laptop.)

  22. shaunhaynes22 says:

    At the beginning of the episode Bo used her Succubus to save Tamsin. Towards the end of the episode she didn’t bother to try and save Aife.

    Hades killed Aife and she didn’t try to bring her back, I know it was for the plot, but one could assume or deduce Bo’s Succubus didn’t like Aife. What kind of daughter with Succubus powers leaves her Succubus mother to die? Not a very good look on Bo. Especially going into the worst season of the series, 4.

    • trixtah says:

      late to this party too, but maybe they were avoiding any weird incest vibes, especially because the chi-thing is associated with sexuality? Also, I had the impression Bo was conserving what she had to take off after everyone else (based on nothing much other than her having to top up from Tamsin a bit earlier)

      • trixtah says:

        …oh, and also, had she healed anything like a massive wound earlier? I feel like she really wasn’t in much control of her healing stuff at that time (i.e. she failed to heal Tamsin earlier)

      • Melanie says:

        I don’t remember where her control or recharge (or lack thereof) was at, which you mention below, but the incest thing . . . it’s interesting. Maybe you’re right and they wanted to avoid it. But this season went pretty full-on gods mythos, Scandanavian to (IIRC) Indigenous peoples of what’s now North America and of course GrecoRoman who are notoriously incestuous, so maybe they could have just leaaaaned into it?

        Then again (to argue against myself) perhaps the writers considered going there, but wanted to avoid conflating queerness with incest, since modern stories with LGBTQ+ people are few and far enough between, especially those which centre them or don’t use their sexuality as The Defining Trait.

        • shaunhaynes22 says:

          Aife tried to push chi into Bo before. I’d have to go back and watch again to see if it worked or if Bo woke up on her own. Bo offered Trick chi too but they went another route.

  23. Thomas Jacks says:

    As much as I love Lauren, it’s disgusting and telling the lengths the writers went to, to keep her a slave. Dyson told her to run at the end of season 2, here he told her she could never leave.

    Bo suddenly being Dark was another noose around Lauren’s neck and Bo tightened it in every episode. What happened to the Bo that freed Nadia and stood down? Did her obsession to have all of her lovers in the same bed keep the smartest one on the group stupidly trying to free a woman who tossed her and Dyson aside when she brought her sponsor home like a new toy? She didn’t bother asking Rainer to undark her.

    I’m sure in private Anna and Zoie had to think wth when reading their scripts. Lauren would always be a kicked dog under Bo’s heels.

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